Kirk and Adam discuss the impact of regulations on the data center industry, emphasizing the transformative capacity of data centers and the importance of education to attract a skilled workforce. Highlighting the industry's positive narrative to inspire future generations and exploring the significance of having a "plan A" in life and promoting data centers as a viable career choice.

Kirk is joined by Adam Black as we follow his journey from working with companies like Facebook and Google, to his Current position as Senior VP of design and construction at TA Realty. In this episode they touch on learning from your mistakes, how to build a good company culture, and how ai is changing the landscape for data centers going forward.