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Bruce Kasman is joined by Joe Lupton to discuss their view that hopes of a court-led off-ramp to the US war on trade are overstated. They maintain that the risks are skewed toward higher, not lower, tariffs. However, the trajectory of growth is complicated by prior front-loading and there is debate about how to track resilience. Weakness could presage recession, muddle-through, or rebound. The latter scenario risks Fed cuts only to be followed by hikes.

This podcast was recorded on May 30, 2025.

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Bruce Kasman and Joe Lupton discuss how the activity data continues to show resilience, an encouraging development that will help weather the coming US policy storm. Whether it is enough to support the transition to the trade war is the central question. Regardless, even absent recession, the risk of an extended period of soft growth should also be a concern. One factor underlying this risk is a lack of potential policy offsets, particularly in the US where the Fed is likely to remain on extended hold.

This podcast was recorded on May 2, 2025.

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with Bruce Kasman (J.P. Morgan) , Jahangir Aziz (Emerging Markets Economic and Policy Research) , Joe Lupton

Bruce Kasman is joined by Joe Lupton and Jahangir Aziz to discuss the post-Liberation Day back-peddling that has led some to breathe a sigh of relief. Not us. A 10% universal tax is still a very large shock (7.5x the 2018-19 trade war) and the huge 145% tax (and rising) on China is prohibitive. You cannot stop trade between the world’s two largest economies and not expect pain everywhere. We maintain our call for a 60% likelihood of a US/global recession.

This podcast was recorded on 04/11/2025.

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Bruce Kasman is joined by Joe Lupton to discuss how the global expansion remains on solid footing for now. According to this week’s January surveys, the firming in global industry late last year looks to have continued into 2025. However, US policy churn—including an unexpected trade war on its closest trading partners—has increased uncertainties that are likely to be a new headwind, particularly on business spending. US fiscal policies are limited by already elevated deficits, adding to concerns of sustainability.

This podcast was recorded on February 7, 2025.

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Bruce Kasman and Joe Lupton discuss how the US election is a material shock to the baseline, but one that reinforces our view that pushed back against a consensus for an immaculate disinflation. A careful assessment of the coming supply and demand shocks to the global economy will lead us to expect diverse growth outcomes but undeniably higher inflation and less policy easing.

This podcast was recorded on November 8, 2024.

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Bruce Kasman is joined by Joe Lupton to discuss how the Fed will take center stage in a week marked by a number of significant central bank decisions that don’t revolve around a common theme. We anticipate a 50bp rate cut from the FOMC as it responds to a material shift in risk bias. At the same time, we expect the BoE to follow the ECB in guiding toward a cautious rate normalization path while we anticipate the BoJ will continue to emphasize further rate hikes lie ahead. We also see Norges Bank on hold, an easing from SARB, and a tightening from Brazil’s BCB.

This podcast was recorded on 9/13/2024.

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Bruce Kasman is joined by Joe Lupton to discuss how it has been a volatile week in financial markets, with tension between what we assess to be a modest rise in downside growth risks and a more significant shift in the near-term prospects for Fed easing. Importantly, the Fed is set to ease partly on the back of strong supply-performance reducing labor market pressures, a development not evident in other major economies.

This podcast was recorded on 08/09/2924.

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