In this episode, Conor and Bryce interview Sean Parent about the origin story of his career in software engineering! Link to Episode 263 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Socials ADSP: The Podcast: TwitterConor Hoekstra: Twitter | BlueSky | MastodonBryce Adelstein Lelbach: TwitterAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2025-10-10 Date Released: 2025-12-05 Source CodeTRS80Ohio Scientific ChallengerExidy SorcererIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce interview Sean Parent about generic programming and there is much chaos! Link to Episode 262 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Socials ADSP: The Podcast: TwitterConor Hoekstra: Twitter | BlueSky | MastodonBryce Adelstein Lelbach: TwitterAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2025-10-10 Date Released: 2025-11-28 Koala bear cryingabscond DefintionSean's C++ Under the Sea KeynotePacific++ 2018: Sean Parent "Generic Programming"From Mathematics to Generic Programming (FM2GP)ParrotParrot on GitHubIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce chat with Sean Parent about AI and Cursor! Link to Episode 253 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Socials ADSP: The Podcast: TwitterConor Hoekstra: Twitter | BlueSky | MastodonBryce Adelstein Lelbach: TwitterAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2025-08-21 Date Released: 2025-09-26 C++ Under the SeaBetter codeAdobe ASL Adam & Eve ArchitectureAdobe Software Technology LabASL LibrariesRust Programming LanguageIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce chat with Sean Parent about Rust and AI! Link to Episode 252 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Socials ADSP: The Podcast: TwitterConor Hoekstra: Twitter | BlueSky | MastodonBryce Adelstein Lelbach: TwitterAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2025-08-21 Date Released: 2025-09-19 C++ Under the SeaBetter codeAdobe ASL Adam & Eve ArchitectureAdobe Software Technology LabASL LibrariesRust Programming LanguageIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce interview Sean Parent about his upcoming keynote at C++ Under the Sea! Link to Episode 251 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Socials ADSP: The Podcast: TwitterConor Hoekstra: Twitter | BlueSky | MastodonBryce Adelstein Lelbach: TwitterAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2025-08-21 Date Released: 2025-09-12 C++ Under the SeaAre We There Yet? - The Future of C++ Software Development - Sean Parent - C++Now 2025A Possible Future of Software Development - Sean Parent - Google Tech Talk 2008Sean Parent Zurich C++ Meetupcareers.adobe.comIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce interview Sean Parent about his thoughts on AI, its impact on the software industry and society, and more! Link to Episode 250 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Socials ADSP: The Podcast: TwitterConor Hoekstra: Twitter | BlueSky | MastodonBryce Adelstein Lelbach: TwitterAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2025-08-21 Date Released: 2025-09-05 Snowcrash by Neal StephensonTech LayoffslumeWall-EAltered CarbonTerminatorIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Ben continue their chat with Sean Parent about std::rotate, std::stable_sort and more! Link to Episode 203 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBen DeaneAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2024-09-26 Date Released: 2024-10-11 ADSP Episode 202: Rotates All the Way Down with Sean Parent (Part 1)From Mathematics to Generic Programming (FM2GP)Elements of ProgrammingStepanov Papers (website)Stepanov Papers: Notes on Higher Order Programming in SchemeStepanov Papers: Class Notes & Videos - Incomplete Notes for Foundations of ProgrammingC++ std::rotateC++ std::stable_sortC++ std::stable_partitionC++ Seasoning by Sean ParentC++ std::nth_elementC++ std::sortC++ std::partitionC++ std::partial_sortFour Algorithmic Journeys Part 1: Spoils of the EgyptiansIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Ben chat with Sean Parent about std::rotate, GCD, EOP, from Mathematics to Generic Programming and more! Link to Episode 202 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBen DeaneAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2024-09-26 Date Released: 2024-10-04 ADSP Episode 199: std::rotateSean’s TweetTristan’s TweetSwapping Sections PaperC++20 flux LibraryElements of ProgrammingNVIDIA/cccl rotate issueC++ std::rotateC++ std::partial_sortC++ Seasoning by Sean ParentC++Now 2019 - Algorithm IntuitionThat’s a Rotate VideoFrom Mathematics to Generic Programming (FM2GP)Four Algorithmic Journeys Part 1: Spoils of the EgyptiansProgramming Conversations Lecture 5 Part 1Alexander Stepanov: STL and Its Design Principles (2002)Greatest Common Measure: The Last 2500 Years - Alexander StepanovBinary GCD (Stein’s Algorithm)Intro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce interview Sean Parent about Adobe Flash, his new library and idea called Chains and his latest thoughts on memory safety in programming languages and C++. Link to Episode 172 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

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Date Recorded: 2024-03-07 Date Released: 2024-03-08 Apple TrueTypeAdobe FlashConor’s Metric 6.4 DEMO (Stock Screening Program)Adobe LightRoomAdobe Photoshop Expressasm.jsPinnacle StudioNVIDIA TeslaNYC++: March 2024 at Adobe ft., Sean ParentSean Parent’s Chains TalkSean Parent’s chains LibraryC++ Senders and ReceiversNVIDIA/stdexec - Senders - A Standard Model for Asynchronous Execution in C++Circle C++ CompilerCppFrontIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce chat with Sean Parent about Jeri Ellsworth of Tilt Five, Greg Galanos of Metrowerks, Jean-Louis Gasse of Be Inc. and more! Link to Episode 163 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

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Date Recorded: 2023-12-12 Date Released: 2024-01-05 Tilt FiveJeri EllsworthHackers ConferenceCommodore 64castAR (formerly Technical Illusions)Compiler Construction by Niklaus WirthHookStar Scrabble TrainerMetrowerks CodeWarrior IDEGreg Galanos (Founder of Metrowerks)Jean-Louis Gassée (CEO of Be Inc.)Be Inc.Pactifc Northwest C++ Users’ GroupNYC++ MeetupC++ ContractsC++ On Sea ConferenceIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce chat with Sean Parent about Pascal, C, Unix, Modula(-2/3) and more! Link to Episode 162 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

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Date Recorded: 2023-12-12 Date Released: 2023-12-29 Jonathan O’Connor ADSP EpisodesSean Parent tweet on ADSP Episode 154Software Unscripted Ep77: How Programming has ChangedArrayCast Ep68: Brian Ellingsgaard and the Rayed-BQN Games FrameworkUCSD PascalPascal Programming LanguageSteve Wozniak’s SWEET16p-code machineApple LisaLarry TeslerObject PascalDelphiUnixVAX/VMSC LanguageTurbo PascalApple PascalMetrowerks CodeWarrior IDEModula LanguageModula-2 LanguageModula-3 LanguageOberon LanguageArthur WhitneyAnders HejlsbergCompiler Construction by Niklaus WirthLilith ComputerTilt FiveJeri EllsworthIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0

In this episode, Conor and Bryce chat with Sean Parent about the latest on the Hylo programming language, potential limitations to the C++ Senders and Receivers model and the status of Rust and safety at Adobe. Link to Episode 160 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

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Date Recorded: 2023-12-12 Date Released: 2023-12-15 Hylo LanguageHylo on Compiler ExplorerHylo ArraysC++ Sender & ReceiversLightroom MobileLightroom WebSTLab Concurrency LibrariesSTLab Concurrency Libraries on GitHubAdobe Content Authenticator (written in Rust)EU Legislation (Cyber Resilience Act)US Legislation (Bill 2670)The Case for Memory Safe Roadmaps (CIA, NSA, FBI, et al)NSA on Memory Safe LanguagesWhite House Executive Order on CybersecurityMac Folklore PodcastMac Folklore Episode 98: Basal Gangster - A/UX: The Long View (2010)Keynote: Safety and Security: The Future of C++ - JF Bastien - CppNow 2023MISRA C++ 2023Jonathon Blow on the Quality of Software (Software is in Decline)Intel’s Optane MemoryIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic CC — Attribution 3.0 Unported CC BY 3.0

In this episode, Conor and Bryce close out their conversation with Sean Parent and learn why he left Apple to join Adobe. Link to Episode 139 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)How To Get Involved With Val DM Sean on TwitterVal Lang on GitHubVal Teams MeetingClick here to join the meetingMeeting ID: 298 158 296 273Passcode: D2beKFWhen: Tues/Thurs 12:30-1:00 PSTVal SlackTwitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

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Date Recorded: 2023-06-29 Date Released: 2023-07-21 ADSP Episode 137: Sean Parent on Val (vs Rust)!ADSP Episode 138: Sean Parent on Val! (Part 2)C++ On Sea ConferenceAll Sean Parent ADSP EpisodesAdobe Software Technology LabADSP Episode 40: Star Trek vs PowerPC (with Sean Parent)PostScriptJohn WarnockCharles (Chuck) GeschkeSean Parent photo with John WarnockIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce continue their interview with Sean Parent live from C++ On Sea 2023 about the Val programming language! Link to Episode 138 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

How To Get Involved With Val DM Sean on TwitterVal Lang on GitHubVal Teams MeetingClick here to join the meetingMeeting ID: 298 158 296 273Passcode: D2beKFWhen: Tues/Thurs 12:30-1:00 PSTVal SlackShow Notes Date Recorded: 2023-06-29 Date Released: 2023-07-14 ADSP Episode 137: Sean Parent on Val (vs Rust)!C++ On Sea ConferenceAll Sean Parent ADSP EpisodesAdobe Software Technology LabConor Hoekstra - Concepts vs Typeclasses vs Traits vs Protocols - Meeting C++ 2020Programming Languages Virtual MeetupThe Val Programming LanguageThe Rust Programming LanguageThe Swift Programming LanguageHalide LanguageADSP Dave Abrahams EpisodesCircle CompilerJakt Programming LanguageCppCast Episode 355 - Carbon, with Richard SmithC++ on Sea 2023: Keynote: All the Safeties - Sean ParentRust iterx libraryThe Carbon Programming LanguageIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce interview Sean Parent live from C++ On Sea 2023 about the Val programming language and how it compares to Rust, Swift and C++. Link to Episode 137 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2023-06-29 Date Released: 2023-07-07 C++ On Sea ConferenceAll Sean Parent ADSP EpisodesAdobe Software Technology LabASL LibrariesThe Val Programming LanguageThe Rust Programming LanguageThe Swift Programming LanguageMutable Value SemanticsLLVMRust TraitsCppNorth 2022 Keynote: The Tragedy of C++, Parts One & Two - Sean ParentC++ Seasoning - Sean ParentSean Parent: “Now What? A vignette in three parts” - C++Now 2012Adobe ASL Adam & Eve ArchitectureHalide LanguageIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8