In this episode, Conor and Bryce chat with Sean Parent about Rust and AI! Link to Episode 252 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Socials ADSP: The Podcast: TwitterConor Hoekstra: Twitter | BlueSky | MastodonBryce Adelstein Lelbach: TwitterAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe's Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2025-08-21 Date Released: 2025-09-19 C++ Under the SeaBetter codeAdobe ASL Adam & Eve ArchitectureAdobe Software Technology LabASL LibrariesRust Programming LanguageIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce chat with Sean Parent about the latest on the Hylo programming language, potential limitations to the C++ Senders and Receivers model and the status of Rust and safety at Adobe. Link to Episode 160 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

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Date Recorded: 2023-12-12 Date Released: 2023-12-15 Hylo LanguageHylo on Compiler ExplorerHylo ArraysC++ Sender & ReceiversLightroom MobileLightroom WebSTLab Concurrency LibrariesSTLab Concurrency Libraries on GitHubAdobe Content Authenticator (written in Rust)EU Legislation (Cyber Resilience Act)US Legislation (Bill 2670)The Case for Memory Safe Roadmaps (CIA, NSA, FBI, et al)NSA on Memory Safe LanguagesWhite House Executive Order on CybersecurityMac Folklore PodcastMac Folklore Episode 98: Basal Gangster - A/UX: The Long View (2010)Keynote: Safety and Security: The Future of C++ - JF Bastien - CppNow 2023MISRA C++ 2023Jonathon Blow on the Quality of Software (Software is in Decline)Intel’s Optane MemoryIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic CC — Attribution 3.0 Unported CC BY 3.0

In this episode, Conor and Bryce close out their conversation with Sean Parent and learn why he left Apple to join Adobe. Link to Episode 139 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)How To Get Involved With Val DM Sean on TwitterVal Lang on GitHubVal Teams MeetingClick here to join the meetingMeeting ID: 298 158 296 273Passcode: D2beKFWhen: Tues/Thurs 12:30-1:00 PSTVal SlackTwitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

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Date Recorded: 2023-06-29 Date Released: 2023-07-21 ADSP Episode 137: Sean Parent on Val (vs Rust)!ADSP Episode 138: Sean Parent on Val! (Part 2)C++ On Sea ConferenceAll Sean Parent ADSP EpisodesAdobe Software Technology LabADSP Episode 40: Star Trek vs PowerPC (with Sean Parent)PostScriptJohn WarnockCharles (Chuck) GeschkeSean Parent photo with John WarnockIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce continue their interview with Sean Parent live from C++ On Sea 2023 about the Val programming language! Link to Episode 138 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC.

How To Get Involved With Val DM Sean on TwitterVal Lang on GitHubVal Teams MeetingClick here to join the meetingMeeting ID: 298 158 296 273Passcode: D2beKFWhen: Tues/Thurs 12:30-1:00 PSTVal SlackShow Notes Date Recorded: 2023-06-29 Date Released: 2023-07-14 ADSP Episode 137: Sean Parent on Val (vs Rust)!C++ On Sea ConferenceAll Sean Parent ADSP EpisodesAdobe Software Technology LabConor Hoekstra - Concepts vs Typeclasses vs Traits vs Protocols - Meeting C++ 2020Programming Languages Virtual MeetupThe Val Programming LanguageThe Rust Programming LanguageThe Swift Programming LanguageHalide LanguageADSP Dave Abrahams EpisodesCircle CompilerJakt Programming LanguageCppCast Episode 355 - Carbon, with Richard SmithC++ on Sea 2023: Keynote: All the Safeties - Sean ParentRust iterx libraryThe Carbon Programming LanguageIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8

In this episode, Conor and Bryce interview Sean Parent live from C++ On Sea 2023 about the Val programming language and how it compares to Rust, Swift and C++. Link to Episode 137 on WebsiteDiscuss this episode, leave a comment, or ask a question (on GitHub)Twitter ADSP: The PodcastConor HoekstraBryce Adelstein LelbachAbout the Guest: Sean Parent is a senior principal scientist and software architect managing Adobe’s Software Technology Lab. Sean first joined Adobe in 1993 working on Photoshop and is one of the creators of Photoshop Mobile, Lightroom Mobile, and Lightroom Web. In 2009 Sean spent a year at Google working on Chrome OS before returning to Adobe. From 1988 through 1993 Sean worked at Apple, where he was part of the system software team that developed the technologies allowing Apple’s successful transition to PowerPC. Show Notes Date Recorded: 2023-06-29 Date Released: 2023-07-07 C++ On Sea ConferenceAll Sean Parent ADSP EpisodesAdobe Software Technology LabASL LibrariesThe Val Programming LanguageThe Rust Programming LanguageThe Swift Programming LanguageMutable Value SemanticsLLVMRust TraitsCppNorth 2022 Keynote: The Tragedy of C++, Parts One & Two - Sean ParentC++ Seasoning - Sean ParentSean Parent: “Now What? A vignette in three parts” - C++Now 2012Adobe ASL Adam & Eve ArchitectureHalide LanguageIntro Song Info Miss You by Sarah Jansen https://soundcloud.com/sarahjansenmusic Creative Commons — Attribution 3.0 Unported — CC BY 3.0 Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/l-miss-you Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/iYYxnasvfx8