Highly technical data teams can easily expound the virtues of data mesh to their technical peers, but getting leaders and lesser technical colleagues can be a challenge. In this talk, Pardhu Gunnam, CEO of Metaphor Data, talks about the steps to sell the vision and build consensus across the organization for a successful implementation of data mesh.

Speaker: Pardhu Gunnam, CEO, Metaphor

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Summary Building a well managed data ecosystem for your organization requires a holistic view of all of the producers, consumers, and processors of information. The team at Metaphor are building a fully connected metadata layer to provide both technical and social intelligence about your data. In this episode Pardhu Gunnam and Mars Lan explain how they have designed the architecture and user experience to allow everyone to collaborate on the data lifecycle and provide opportunities for automation and extensible workflows.

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Metaphor is and the story behind it? On your site it states that you are aiming to be the "system of record" for your data platform. Can you unpack that statement and its implications?

What are the shortcomings in the "data catalog" approach to metadata collection and presentation?

Who are the target end users of Metaphor and what are the pain points for each persona that you are prioritizing?

How has that focus informed your priorities for user experience design and feature development?

Can you describe how the Metaphor platform is architected?

What are the lessons that you learned from your work at DataHub that have informed your work on Metaphor?

There has been a huge amount of focus on the "modern data stack" with an assumption that there is a cloud data warehouse as the central component that all data flows through. How does Metaphor’s design allow for usage in platforms that aren’t dominated

Summary In order to scale the use of data across an organization there are a number of challenges related to discovery, governance, and integration that need to be solved. The key to those solutions is a robust and flexible metadata management system. LinkedIn has gone through several iterations on the most maintainable and scalable approach to metadata, leading them to their current work on DataHub. In this episode Mars Lan and Pardhu Gunnam explain how they designed the platform, how it integrates into their data platforms, and how it is being used to power data discovery and analytics at LinkedIn.

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what DataHub is and some of its back story?

What were you using at LinkedIn for metadata management prior to the introduction of DataHub? What was lacking in the previous solutions that motivated you to create a new platform?

There are a large number of other systems available for building data catalogs and tracking metadata, both open source and proprietary. What are the features of DataHub that would lead someone to use it in place of the other options? Who is the target audience for DataHub?

How do the needs of those end users influence or constrain your approach to the design and interfaces provided by DataHub?

Can you describe how DataHub is architected?

How has it evolved since yo