Patrick Thompson, co-founder of Clarify and former co-founder of Iteratively (acquired by Amplitude), joined Yuliia and Dumky to discuss the evolution from data quality to decision quality. Patrick shares his experience building data contracts solutions at Atlassian and later developing analytics tracking tools. Patrick challenges the assumption that AI will eliminate the need for structured data. He argues that while LLMs excel at understanding unstructured data, businesses still need deterministic systems for automation and decision-making. Patrick shares insights on why enforcing data quality at the source remains critical, even in an AI-first world, and explains his shift from analytics to CRM while maintaining focus on customer data unification and business impact over technical perfectionism.Tune in!

Jean-Georges Perrin is a serial startup founder, currently co-founder of AbeaData [https://abeadata.com/], and co-author of "Implementing Data Mesh." He is the one who championed the PayPal's data contract project, which is now part of Bitol and the Linux Foundation. In this episode, JGP speaks about building and maintaining open-source data contract solutions using open standards. He shares a lot about why and how he came to it and the challenges of maintaining it to avoid appropriation of the solution. JGP discusses how they balance the interests of different groups in developing a community around open data contract standards. More importantly, he shares how data contracts can positively change the life of every data engineer.Check out JGP's LinkedInCheck out Bitol -  Open Standards for Data Contracts and become a contributor.

Andrew Jones, principal engineer at GoCardless, is the author of the book "Driving Data Quality with Data Contracts." During this session, we talked a lot about what a data platform is, who data platform engineers are, what it takes to make a data platform reliable, and, most importantly, how Andrew and his team managed to build a reliable platform at GoCardless. Sure enough, we touched a little on data contracts, their implementation, and the possibility of vendors doing the same as Andrew's team did.Andrew's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewrhysjones/