Summary

The customer data platform is a category of services that was developed early in the evolution of the current era of cloud services for data processing. When it was difficult to wire together the event collection, data modeling, reporting, and activation it made sense to buy monolithic products that handled every stage of the customer data lifecycle. Now that the data warehouse has taken center stage a new approach of composable customer data platforms is emerging. In this episode Darren Haken is joined by Tejas Manohar to discuss how Autotrader UK is addressing their customer data needs by building on top of their existing data stack.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management RudderStack helps you build a customer data platform on your warehouse or data lake. Instead of trapping data in a black box, they enable you to easily collect customer data from the entire stack and build an identity graph on your warehouse, giving you full visibility and control. Their SDKs make event streaming from any app or website easy, and their extensive library of integrations enable you to automatically send data to hundreds of downstream tools. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudderstack Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Darren Haken and Tejas Manohar about building a composable CDP and how you can start adopting it incrementally

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what you mean by a "composable CDP"?

What are some of the key ways that it differs from the ways that we think of a CDP today?

What are the problems that you were focused on addressing at Autotrader that are solved by a CDP? One of the promises of the first generation CDP was an opinionated way to model your data so that non-technical teams could own this responsibility. What do you see as the risks/tradeoffs of moving CDP functionality into the same data stack as the rest of the organization?

What about companies that don't have the capacity to run a full data infrastructure?

Beyond the core technology of the data warehouse, what are the other evolutions/innovations that allow for a CDP experience to be built on top of the core data stack? added burden on core data teams to generate event-driven data models When iterating toward a CDP on top of the core investment of the infrastructure to feed and manage a data warehouse, what are the typical first steps?

What are some of the components in the ecosystem that help to speed up the time to adoption? (e.g. pre-built dbt packages for common transformations, etc.)

What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen CDPs implemented? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on CDP related functionality? When is a CDP (composable or monolithic) the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of the CDP stack?

Contact Info

Darren

LinkedIn @DarrenHaken on Twitter

Tejas

LinkedIn @tejasmanohar on Twitter

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

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Links

Autotrader Hightouch

Customer Studio

CDP == Customer Data Platform Segment

Podcast Episode

mPar

Summary The precursor to widespread adoption of cloud data warehouses was the creation of customer data platforms. Acting as a centralized repository of information about how your customers interact with your organization they drove a wave of analytics about how to improve products based on actual usage data. A natural outgrowth of that capability is the more recent growth of reverse ETL systems that use those analytics to feed back into the operational systems used to engage with the customer. In this episode Tejas Manohar and Rachel Bradley-Haas share the story of their own careers and experiences coinciding with these trends. They also discuss the current state of the market for these technological patterns and how to take advantage of them in your own work.

Announcements

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can we start by discussing what it means to have a "customer data platform"? What are the challenges that organizations face in establishing a unified view of their customer interactions?

How do the presence of multiple product lines impact the ability to understand the relationship with the customer?

We have been building data warehouses and business intelligence systems for decades. How does the idea of a CDP differ from the approaches of those previous generations? A recent outgrowth of the focus on creating a CDP is the introduction of "operational analytics", which was initially termed "reverse ETL". What are your opinions on the semantics and importance of these names?

What is the relationship between a CDP and operational analytics? (can you have one without the other?)

How have the capabilities

Summary The data warehouse has become the central component of the modern data stack. Building on this pattern, the team at Hightouch have created a platform that synchronizes information about your customers out to third party systems for use by marketing and sales teams. In this episode Tejas Manohar explains the benefits of sourcing customer data from one location for all of your organization to use, the technical challenges of synchronizing the data to external systems with varying APIs, and the workflow for enabling self-service access to your customer data by your marketing teams. This is an interesting conversation about the importance of the data warehouse and how it can be used beyond just internal analytics.

Announcements

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at Hightouch and your motivation for creating it? What are the main points of friction for teams who are trying to make use of customer data? Where is Hightouch positioned in the ecosystem of customer data tools such as Segment, Mixpanel