Summary

The "modern data stack" promised a scalable, composable data platform that gave everyone the flexibility to use the best tools for every job. The reality was that it left data teams in the position of spending all of their engineering effort on integrating systems that weren't designed with compatible user experiences. The team at 5X understand the pain involved and the barriers to productivity and set out to solve it by pre-integrating the best tools from each layer of the stack. In this episode founder Tarush Aggarwal explains how the realities of the modern data stack are impacting data teams and the work that they are doing to accelerate time to value.

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what 5x is and the story behind it?

We last spoke in March of 2022. What are the notable changes in the 5x business and product?

What are the notable shifts in the data ecosystem that have influenced your adoption and product direction?

What trends are you most focused on tracking as you plan the continued evolution of your offerings?

What are the points of friction that teams run into when trying to build their data platform? Can you describe design of the system that you have built?

What are the strategies that you rely on to support adaptability and speed of onboarding for new integrations?

What are some of the types of edge cases that you have to deal with while integrating and operating the platform implementations that you design for your customers? What is your process for selection of vendors to support?

How would you characte

Summary The modern data stack is a constantly moving target which makes it difficult to adopt without prior experience. In order to accelerate the time to deliver useful insights at organizations of all sizes that are looking to take advantage of these new and evolving architectures Tarush Aggarwal founded 5X Data. In this episode he explains how he works with these companies to deploy the technology stack and pairs them with an experienced engineer who assists with the implementation and training to let them realize the benefits of this architecture. He also shares his thoughts on the current state of the ecosystem for modern data vendors and trends to watch as we move into the future.

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what you are doing at 5x and the story behind it? How has your focus and operating model shifted since we spoke a year ago?

What are the biggest shifts in the market for data management that you have seen in that time?

What are the main challenges that your customers are facing when they start working with you? What are the components that you are relying on to build repeatable data platforms for your customers?

What are the sharp edges that you have had to smooth out to scale your implementation of those

Summary Every business aims to be data driven, but not all of them succeed in that effort. In order to be able to truly derive insights from the data that an organization collects, there are certain foundational capabilities that they need to have capacity for. In order to help more businesses build those foundations, Tarush Aggarwal created 5xData, offering collaborative workshops to assist in setting up the technical and organizational systems that are necessary to succeed. In this episode he shares his thoughts on the core elements that are necessary for every business to be data driven, how he is helping companies incorporate those capabilities into their structure, and the ongoing support that he is providing through a network of mastermind groups. This is a great conversation about the initial steps that every group should be thinking of as they start down the road to making data informed decisions.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Tarush Aggarwal about his mission at 5xData to teach companies how to build solid foundations for their data capabilities

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at 5xData and the story behind it? impact of industry on challenges in becoming data driven profile of companies that you are trying to work with common mistakes when designing data platform misconceptions that the business has around how to invest in data challenges in attracting/interviewing/hiring data talent What are the core components that you have standardized on for building the foundational layers of t