In this episode, Ciro Greco (Co-founder & CEO, Bauplan) joins me to discuss why the future of data infrastructure must be "Code-First" and how this philosophy accidentally created the perfect environment for AI Agents.

We explore why the "Modern Data Stack" isn't ready for autonomous agents and why a programmable lakehouse is the solution. Ciro explains that while we trust agents to write code (because we can roll it back), allowing them to write data requires strict safety rails.

He breaks down how Bauplan uses "Git for Data" semantics - branching, isolation, and transactionality - to provide an air-gapped sandbox where agents can safely operate without corrupting production data. Welcome to the future of the lakehouse.

Bauplan: https://www.bauplanlabs.com/

There's no shortage of technical content for data engineers, but a massive gap exists when it comes to the non-technical skills required to advance beyond a senior role. I sit down with Yordan Ivanov, Head of Data Engineering and writer of "Data Gibberish," to talk about this disconnect. We dive into his personal journey of failing as a manager the first time, learning the crucial "people" skills, and his current mission to help data engineers learn how to speak the language of business. Key areas we explore: The Senior-Level Content Gap: Yordan explains why his non-technical content on career strategy and stakeholder communication gets "terrible" engagement compared to technical posts, even though it's what's needed to advance.The Managerial Trap: Yordan's candid story about his first attempt at management, where he failed because he cared only about code and wasn't equipped for the people-centric aspects and politics of the role.The Danger of AI Over-reliance: A deep discussion on how leaning too heavily on AI can prevent the development of fundamental thinking and problem-solving skills, both in coding and in life.The Maturing Data Landscape: We reflect on the end of the "modern data stack euphoria" and what the wave of acquisitions means for innovation and the future of data tooling.AI Adoption in Europe vs. the US: A look at how AI adoption is perceived as massive and mandatory in Europe, while US census data shows surprisingly low enterprise adoption rates

It's all about acquisitions, acquisitions, acquisitions! Matt Housley joins me to tackle the biggest rumor in the data world this week: the potential acquisition of dbt Labs by Fivetran. This news sparks a wide-ranging discussion on the inevitable consolidation of the Modern Data Stack, a trend we predicted as the era of zero-interest-rate policy ended. We also talk about financial pressures, vendor exposure to the rise of AI, the future of data tooling, and more.

This morning, a great article came across my feed that gave me PTSD, asking if Iceberg is the Hadoop of the Modern Data Stack?

In this rant, I bring the discussion back to a central question you should ask with any hot technology - do you need it at all? Do you need a tool built for the top 1% of companies at a sufficient data scale? Or is a spreadsheet good enough?

Link: https://blog.det.life/apache-iceberg-the-hadoop-of-the-modern-data-stack-c83f63a4ebb9

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Safiyy Momen and I chat about the good and bad of the Modern Data Stack, controlling cloud costs, boring engineering, and much more.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/safiyy-momen/

Angel Narciso and I hung out at LEAP Riyadh, alongside 215K attendees (wtf?). We chat about all sorts of stuff in the data world, including some blunt convos on the modern data stack and AI, among other things.

My voice is sort of working, and I chat about Tristan Handy's article that raised quite a ruckus this week, "Is the "Modern Data Stack" Still a Useful Idea?"

In the end, the Modern Data Stack won - people use the cloud for analytics. And everything ends, so I'm excited for what's next.

Article: https://roundup.getdbt.com/p/is-the-modern-data-stack-still-a?r=oc02

Egor Gryaznov joins me to chat about the "Non-Modern Data Stack", getting out of our data bubble, and much more. If you like a refreshing conversation talking about the past, present, and future of our industry, this is for you.

BigEye: https://webflow.bigeye.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/egorgryaznov/

Michel Tricot (CEO of Airbyte) joins me to chat about the impact of AI on the modern data stack, ETL for AI, the challenges of moving from open source to a paid product, and much more.

Airbyte & Pinecone - https://airbyte.com/tutorials/chat-with-your-data-using-openai-pinecone-airbyte-and-langchain

Note from Joe - I had audio issues cuz he got a new computer and didn't use the correct mic :(