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Abstract Making Data Simple Podcast is hosted by Al Martin, VP, IBM Expert Services Delivery, where we explore trending technologies, business innovation, and leadership ... while keeping it simple & fun. This week on Making Data Simple, we have Douwe Maan. Douwe is the Founder and CEO of Meltano, an open source data integration and transformation platform. He joined GitLab as employee number 10 while still in college and later became its Engineering Manager. Meltano originally began as an internal project within GitLab, but spun out as an independent startup in early 2021 while raising $4.2 million in seed funding led by GV. Today, Meltano has over 5,000 active projects every month and supports data integration connectors for almost 300 sources and destinations. Show Notes 1:30 – Douwe’s history 4:00 – What is an iPhone jail break? 8:04 – How would you describe Meltano? 10:38 – What kind of tools do you use? 12:12 – Did you start with ELT? 16:08 – Is this dev ops or data ops and what is the difference? 18:38 – What platform does Meltano use? 29:52 – What can you do that no one else can do? 32:10 – Do you have point and click analytics? 36:23 – How do you measure success? Meltano  Connect with the Team Producer Kate Brown - LinkedIn. Producer Steve Templeton - LinkedIn. Host Al Martin - LinkedIn and Twitter.  Want to be featured as a guest on Making Data Simple? Reach out to us at [email protected] and tell us why you should be next. The Making Data Simple Podcast is hosted by Al Martin, WW VP Technical Sales, IBM, where we explore trending technologies, business innovation, and leadership ... while keeping it simple & fun.

Summary Data integration in the form of extract and load is the critical first step of every data project. There are a large number of commercial and open source projects that offer that capability but it is still far from being a solved problem. One of the most promising community efforts is that of the Singer ecosystem, but it has been plagued by inconsistent quality and design of plugins. In this episode the members of the Meltano project share the work they are doing to improve the discovery, quality, and capabilities of Singer taps and targets. They explain their work on the Meltano Hub and the Singer SDK and their long term goals for the Singer community.

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by describing what the Singer ecosystem is? What are the current weak points/challenges in the ecosystem? What is the current role of the Meltano project/community within the ecosystem?

What are the projects and activities related to Singer that you are focused on?

What are the main goals of the Meltano Hub?

What criteria are you using to determine which projects to include in the hub? Why is the number of targets so small? What additional functionality do you have planned for the hub?

What functionality does the SDK provide?

How does the presence of the SDK make it easier to write taps/targets? What do you believe the long-term impacts of the SDK on the overall availability and quality of plugins will be?

Now that you have spun out your own business and raised funding, how does that influence the priorities and focus of your work?

How do you hope to productize what you have built at Meltano?

What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Meltano and Singer plugins used? What are

Summary The first stage of every data pipeline is extracting the information from source systems. There are a number of platforms for managing data integration, but there is a notable lack of a robust and easy to use open source option. The Meltano project is aiming to provide a solution to that situation. In this episode, project lead Douwe Maan shares the history of how Meltano got started, the motivation for the recent shift in focus, and how it is implemented. The Singer ecosystem has laid the groundwork for a great option to empower teams of all sizes to unlock the value of their Data and Meltano is building the reamining structure to make it a fully featured contender for proprietary systems.

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Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by describing what Meltano is and the story behind it? Who is the target audience?

How does the focus on small or early stage organizations constrain the architectural decisions that go into Meltano?

What have you found to be the complexities in trying to encapsulate the entirety of the data lifecycle in a single tool or platform?

What are the most painful transitions in that lifecycle and how does that pain manifest?

How and why has the focus of the project shifted from its original vision? With your current focus on the data integration/data transfer stage of the lifecycle, what are you seeing as the biggest barriers to entry with the current ecosystem?

What are the main elements of