Summary Cloud services have made highly scalable and performant data platforms economical and manageable for data teams. However, they are still challenging to work with and manage for anyone who isn’t in a technical role. Hung Dang understood the need to make data more accessible to the entire organization and created Y42 as a better user experience on top of the "modern data stack". In this episode he shares how he designed the platform to support the full spectrum of technical expertise in an organization and the interesting engineering challenges involved.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their new managed database service you can launch a production ready MySQL, Postgres, or MongoDB cluster in minutes, with automated backups, 40 Gbps connections from your application hosts, and high throughput SSDs. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to launch a database, create a Kubernetes cluster, or take advantage of all of their other services. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! This episode is brought to you by Acryl Data, the company behind DataHub, the leading developer-friendly data catalog for the modern data stack. Open Source DataHub is running in production at several companies like Peloton, Optum, Udemy, Zynga and others. Acryl Data provides DataHub as an easy to consume SaaS product which has been adopted by several companies. Signup for the SaaS product at dataengineeringpodcast.com/acryl RudderStack helps you build a customer data platform on your warehouse or data lake. Instead of trapping data in a black box, they enable you to easily collect customer data from the entire stack and build an identity graph on your warehouse, giving you full visibility and control. Their SDKs make event streaming from any app or website easy, and their state-of-the-art reverse ETL pipelines enable you to send enriched data to any cloud tool. Sign up free… or just get the free t-shirt for being a listener of the Data Engineering Podcast at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder. The most important piece of any data project is the data itself, which is why it is critical that your data source is high quality. PostHog is your all-in-one product analytics suite including product analysis, user funnels, feature flags, experimentation, and it’s open source so you can host it yourself or let them do it for you! You have full control over your data and their plugin system lets you integrate with all of your other data tools, including data warehouses and SaaS platforms. Give it a try today with their generous free tier at dataengineeringpodcast.com/posthog Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Hung Dang about Y42, the full-stack data platform that anyone can run

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Y42 is and the story behind it? How would you characterize your positioning in the data ecosystem? What are the problems that you are trying to solve?

Who are the personas that you optimize for and how does that manifest in your product design and feature priorities?

How is the Y42 platform implemented?

What are the core engineering problems that you have had to address in order to tie together the various underlying services that you integrate? How have the design and goals of the product changed or evolved since you started working on it?

What are the sharp edges and failure conditions that you have had to automate around in order to support non-technical users? What is the process for integrating Y42 with an organization’s data systems?

What is the story for onboarding from existing systems and importing workflows (e.g. Airflow d

Summary The latest generation of data warehouse platforms have brought unprecedented operational simplicity and effectively infinite scale. Along with those benefits, they have also introduced a new consumption model that can lead to incredibly expensive bills at the end of the month. In order to ensure that you can explore and analyze your data without spending money on inefficient queries Mingsheng Hong and Zheng Shao created Bluesky Data. In this episode they explain how their platform optimizes your Snowflake warehouses to reduce cost, as well as identifying improvements that you can make in your queries to reduce their contribution to your bill.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! This episode is brought to you by Acryl Data, the company behind DataHub, the leading developer-friendly data catalog for the modern data stack. Open Source DataHub is running in production at several companies like Peloton, Optum, Udemy, Zynga and others. Acryl Data provides DataHub as an easy to consume SaaS product which has been adopted by several companies. Signup for the SaaS product at dataengineeringpodcast.com/acryl RudderStack helps you build a customer data platform on your warehouse or data lake. Instead of trapping data in a black box, they enable you to easily collect customer data from the entire stack and build an identity graph on your warehouse, giving you full visibility and control. Their SDKs make event streaming from any app or website easy, and their state-of-the-art reverse ETL pipelines enable you to send enriched data to any cloud tool. Sign up free… or just get the free t-shirt for being a listener of the Data Engineering Podcast at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder. The most important piece of any data project is the data itself, which is why it is critical that your data source is high quality. PostHog is your all-in-one product analytics suite including product analysis, user funnels, feature flags, experimentation, and it’s open source so you can host it yourself or let them do it for you! You have full control over your data and their plugin system lets you integrate with all of your other data tools, including data warehouses and SaaS platforms. Give it a try today with their generous free tier at dataengineeringpodcast.com/posthog Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Mingsheng Hong and Zheng Shao about Bluesky Data where they are combining domain expertise and machine learning to optimize your cloud warehouse usage and reduce operational costs

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Bluesky is and the story behind it?

What are the platforms/technologies that you are focused on in your current early stage? What are some of the other targets that you are considering once you validate your initial hypothesis?

Cloud cost optimization is an active area for application infrastructures as well. What are the corollaries and differences between compute and storage optimization strategies and what you are doing at Bluesky? How have your experiences at hyperscale companies using various combinations of cloud and on-premise data platforms informed your approach to the cost management probl

Summary Building a data platform is an iterative and evolutionary process that requires collaboration with internal stakeholders to ensure that their needs are being met. Yotpo has been on a journey to evolve and scale their data platform to continue serving the needs of their organization as it increases the scale and sophistication of data usage. In this episode Doron Porat and Liran Yogev explain how they arrived at their current architecture, the capabilities that they are optimizing for, and the complex process of identifying and evaluating new components to integrate into their systems. This is an excellent exploration of the decisions and tradeoffs that need to be made while building such a complex system.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! This episode is brought to you by Acryl Data, the company behind DataHub, the leading developer-friendly data catalog for the modern data stack. Open Source DataHub is running in production at several companies like Peloton, Optum, Udemy, Zynga and others. Acryl Data provides DataHub as an easy to consume SaaS product which has been adopted by several companies. Signup for the SaaS product at dataengineeringpodcast.com/acryl RudderStack helps you build a customer data platform on your warehouse or data lake. Instead of trapping data in a black box, they enable you to easily collect customer data from the entire stack and build an identity graph on your warehouse, giving you full visibility and control. Their SDKs make event streaming from any app or website easy, and their state-of-the-art reverse ETL pipelines enable you to send enriched data to any cloud tool. Sign up free… or just get the free t-shirt for being a listener of the Data Engineering Podcast at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder. The most important piece of any data project is the data itself, which is why it is critical that your data source is high quality. PostHog is your all-in-one product analytics suite including product analysis, user funnels, feature flags, experimentation, and it’s open source so you can host it yourself or let them do it for you! You have full control over your data and their plugin system lets you integrate with all of your other data tools, including data warehouses and SaaS platforms. Give it a try today with their generous free tier at dataengineeringpodcast.com/posthog Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Doron Porat and Liran Yogev about their experiences designing and implementing a self-serve data platform at Yotpo

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Yotpo is and the role that data plays in the organization? What are the core data types and sources that you are working with?

What kinds of data assets are being produced and how do those get consumed and re-integrated into the business?

What are the user personas that you are supporting and what are the interfaces that they are comfortable interacting with?

What is the size of your team and how is it structured?

You recently posted about the current architecture of your data platform. What was the starting point on your platform journey?

What did the early stages of feature and platform evolution look like? What was the catalyst for making a concerted effort to integrate your systems into a cohesive platform?

What was the scope and directive of the project for building a platform?

What are the metrics and capabilities that you are optimizing for in the structure of your data platform? What are the organizational or regulatory constraints that you needed to account for?

What are some of the early decisions that affected your available choices in later stages of the project? What does the current state of your architecture look like?

How long did it take to get to where you are today?

What were the factors that you considered in the various build vs. buy decisions?

How did you manage cost modeling to understand the true savings on either side of that decision?

If you were to start from scratch on a new data platform today what might you do differently? What are the decisions that proved helpful in the later stages of your platform development? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen your platform used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on designing and implementing your platform? What do you have planned for the future of your platform infrastructure?

Contact Info

Doron

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Liran

LinkedIn

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to check out our other show, Podcast.init to learn about the Python language, its community, and the innovative ways it is being used. Visit the site to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, and read the show notes. If you’ve learned something or tried out a project from the show then tell us about it! Email [email protected]) with your story. To help other people find the show please leave a review on iTunes and tell your friends and co-workers

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Summary There are very few tools which are equally useful for data engineers, data scientists, and machine learning engineers. WhyLogs is a powerful library for flexibly instrumenting all of your data systems to understand the entire lifecycle of your data from source to productionized model. In this episode Andy Dang explains why the project was created, how you can apply it to your existing data systems, and how it functions to provide detailed context for being able to gain insight into all of your data processes.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! This episode is brought to you by Acryl Data, the company behind DataHub, the leading developer-friendly data catalog for the modern data stack. Open Source DataHub is running in production at several companies like Peloton, Optum, Udemy, Zynga and others. Acryl Data provides DataHub as an easy to consume SaaS product which has been adopted by several companies. Signup for the SaaS product at dataengineeringpodcast.com/acryl RudderStack helps you build a customer data platform on your warehouse or data lake. Instead of trapping data in a black box, they enable you to easily collect customer data from the entire stack and build an identity graph on your warehouse, giving you full visibility and control. Their SDKs make event streaming from any app or website easy, and their state-of-the-art reverse ETL pipelines enable you to send enriched data to any cloud tool. Sign up free… or just get the free t-shirt for being a listener of the Data Engineering Podcast at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder. The most important piece of any data project is the data itself, which is why it is critical that your data source is high quality. PostHog is your all-in-one product analytics suite including product analysis, user funnels, feature flags, experimentation, and it’s open source so you can host it yourself or let them do it for you! You have full control over your data and their plugin system lets you integrate with all of your other data tools, including data warehouses and SaaS platforms. Give it a try today with their generous free tier at dataengineeringpodcast.com/posthog Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Andy Dang about powering observability of AI systems with the whylogs data logging library

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Whylabs is and the story behind it? How is "data logging" differentiated from logging for the purpose of debugging and observability of software logic? What are the use cases that you are aiming to support with Whylogs?

How does it compare to libraries and services like Great Expectations/Monte Carlo/Soda Data/Datafold etc.

Can you describe how Whylogs is implemented?

How have the design and goals of the project changed or evolved since you started working on it?

How do you maintain feature parity between the Python and Java integrations? How do you structure the log events and metadata to provide detail and context for data applications?

How does that structure support aggregation and interpretation/analysis of the log information?

What is the process for integrating Whylogs into an existing project?

Once you ha

Summary Building a data platform for your organization is a challenging undertaking. Building multiple data platforms for other organizations as a service without burning out is another thing entirely. In this episode Brandon Beidel from Red Ventures shares his experiences as a data product manager in charge of helping his customers build scalable analytics systems that fit their needs. He explains the common patterns that have been useful across multiple use cases, as well as when and how to build customized solutions.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! This episode is brought to you by Acryl Data, the company behind DataHub, the leading developer-friendly data catalog for the modern data stack. Open Source DataHub is running in production at several companies like Peloton, Optum, Udemy, Zynga and others. Acryl Data provides DataHub as an easy to consume SaaS product which has been adopted by several companies. Signup for the SaaS product at dataengineeringpodcast.com/acryl Hey Data Engineering Podcast listeners, want to learn how the Joybird data team reduced their time spent building new integrations and managing data pipelines by 93%? Join our live webinar on April 20th. Joybird director of analytics, Brett Trani, will walk through how retooling their data stack with RudderStack, Snowflake, and Iterable made this possible. Visit www.rudderstack.com/joybird?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss to register today. The most important piece of any data project is the data itself, which is why it is critical that your data source is high quality. PostHog is your all-in-one product analytics suite including product analysis, user funnels, feature flags, experimentation, and it’s open source so you can host it yourself or let them do it for you! You have full control over your data and their plugin system lets you integrate with all of your other data tools, including data warehouses and SaaS platforms. Give it a try today with their generous free tier at dataengineeringpodcast.com/posthog Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Brandon Beidel about his data platform journey at Red Ventures

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Red Ventures is and your role there?

Given the relative newness of data product management, where do you draw inspiration and direction for how to approach your work?

What are the primary categories of data product that your data consumers are building/relying on? What are the types of data sources that you are working with to power those downstream use cases? Can you describe the size and composition/organization of your data team(s)? How do you approach the build vs. buy decision while designing and evolving your data platform? What are the tools/platforms/architectural and usage patterns that you and your team have developed for your platform?

What are the primary goals and constraints that have contributed to your decisions? How have the goals and design of the platform changed or evolved since you started working with the team?

You recently went through the process of establishing and reporting on SLAs for your data products. Can you describe the approach you took and the u

Summary Data governance is a practice that requires a high degree of flexibility and collaboration at the organizational and technical levels. The growing prominence of cloud and hybrid environments in data management adds additional stress to an already complex endeavor. Privacera is an enterprise grade solution for cloud and hybrid data governance built on top of the robust and battle tested Apache Ranger project. In this episode Balaji Ganesan shares how his experiences building and maintaining Ranger in previous roles helped him understand the needs of organizations and engineers as they define and evolve their data governance policies and practices.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! This episode is brought to you by Acryl Data, the company behind DataHub, the leading developer-friendly data catalog for the modern data stack. Open Source DataHub is running in production at several companies like Peloton, Optum, Udemy, Zynga and others. Acryl Data provides DataHub as an easy to consume SaaS product which has been adopted by several companies. Signup for the SaaS product at dataengineeringpodcast.com/acryl RudderStack helps you build a customer data platform on your warehouse or data lake. Instead of trapping data in a black box, they enable you to easily collect customer data from the entire stack and build an identity graph on your warehouse, giving you full visibility and control. Their SDKs make event streaming from any app or website easy, and their state-of-the-art reverse ETL pipelines enable you to send enriched data to any cloud tool. Sign up free… or just get the free t-shirt for being a listener of the Data Engineering Podcast at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder. The most important piece of any data project is the data itself, which is why it is critical that your data source is high quality. PostHog is your all-in-one product analytics suite including product analysis, user funnels, feature flags, experimentation, and it’s open source so you can host it yourself or let them do it for you! You have full control over your data and their plugin system lets you integrate with all of your other data tools, including data warehouses and SaaS platforms. Give it a try today with their generous free tier at dataengineeringpodcast.com/posthog Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Balaji Ganesan about his work at Privacera and his view on the state of data governance, access control, and security in the cloud

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Privacera is and the story behind it? What is your working definition of "data governance" and how does that influence your product focus and priorities? What are some of the lessons that you learned from your work on Apache Ranger that helped with your efforts at Privacera? How would you characterize your position in the market for data governance/data security tools? What are the unique constraints and challenges that come into play when managing data in cloud platforms? Can you explain how the Privacera platform is architected?

How have the design and goals of the system changed or evolved since you started working on it?

What is the workflow for an operator integrating Privacera into a data platform?

How do you provide feedback to users about the level of coverage for discovered data assets?

How does Privacera fit into the workflow of the different personas working with data?

What are some of the security and privacy controls that Privacera introduces?

How do you mitigate the potential for anyone to bypass Privacera’s controls by interacting directly with the underlying systems? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Privacera used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Privacera? When is Privacera the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of Privacera?

Contact Info

LinkedIn @Balaji_Blog on Twitter

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to check out our other show, Podcast.init to learn about the Python language, its community, and the innovative ways it is being used. Visit the site to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, and read the show notes. If you’ve learned something or tried out a project from the show then tell us about it! Email [email protected]) with your story. To help other people find the show please leave a review on iTunes and tell your friends and co-workers

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