Summary Data lake architectures have largely been biased toward batch processing workflows due to the volume of data that they are designed for. With more real-time requirements and the increasing use of streaming data there has been a struggle to merge fast, incremental updates with large, historical analysis. Vinoth Chandar helped to create the Hudi project while at Uber to address this challenge. By adding support for small, incremental inserts into large table structures, and building support for arbitrary update and delete operations the Hudi project brings the best of both worlds together. In this episode Vinoth shares the history of the project, how its architecture allows for building more frequently updated analytical queries, and the work being done to add a more polished experience to the data lake paradigm.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management You listen to this show to learn about all of the latest tools, patterns, and practices that power data engineering projects across every domain. Now there’s a book that captures the foundational lessons and principles that underly everything that you hear about here. I’m happy to announce I collected wisdom from the community to help you in your journey as a data engineer and worked with O’Reilly to publish it as 97 Things Every Data Engineer Should Know. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things today to get your copy! When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. We’ve all been asked to help with an ad-hoc request for data by the sales and marketing team. Then it becomes a critical report that they need updated every week or every day. Then what do you do? Send a CSV via email? Write some Python scripts to automate it? But what about incremental sync, API quotas, error handling, and all of the other details that eat up your time? Today, there is a better way. With Census, just write SQL or plug in your dbt models and start syncing your cloud warehouse to SaaS applications like Salesforce, Marketo, Hubspot, and many more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/census today to get a free 14-day trial. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Vinoth Chandar about Apache Hudi, a data lake management layer for supporting fast and incremental updates to your tables.

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Hudi is and the story behind it? What are the use cases that it is focused on supporting? There have been a number of alternative table formats introduced for data lakes recently. How does Hudi compare to projects like Iceberg, Delta Lake, Hive, etc.? Can you describe how Hudi is architected?

How have the goals and design of Hudi changed or evolved since you first began working on it? If you were to start the whole project over today, what would you do differently?

Can you talk through the lifecycle of a data record as it is ingested, compacted, and queried in a Hudi deployment? One of the capabilities that is interesting to explore is support for arbitrary record deletion. Can you talk through why this is a challenging operation in data lake architectures?

How does Hudi make that a tractable problem?

What are the data platform components that are needed to support an installation of Hudi? What is involved in migrating an existing data lake to use Hudi?

How would someone approach supporting heterogeneous table formats in their lake?

As someone who has invested a lot of time in technologies for supporting data lakes, what are your thoughts on the tradeoffs of data lake vs data warehouse and the current trajectory of the ecosystem? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Hudi used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Hudi? When is Hudi the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of Hudi?

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From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

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The Hadoop platform is purpose built for processing large, slow moving data in long-running batch jobs. As the ecosystem around it has grown, so has the need for fast data analytics on fast moving data. To fill this need the Kudu project was created with a column oriented table format that was tuned for high volumes of writes and rapid query execution across those tables. For a perfect pairing, they made it easy to connect to the Impala SQL engine. In this episode Brock Noland and Jordan Birdsell from PhData explain how Kudu is architected, how it compares to other storage systems in the Hadoop orbit, and how to start integrating it into you analytics pipeline.

Preamble

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out Linode. With 200Gbit private networking, scalable shared block storage, and a 40Gbit public network, you’ve got everything you need to run a fast, reliable, and bullet-proof data platform. If you need global distribution, they’ve got that covered too with world-wide datacenters including new ones in Toronto and Mumbai. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today to get a $20 credit and launch a new server in under a minute. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, read the show notes, and get in touch. To help other people find the show please leave a review on iTunes, or Google Play Music, tell your friends and co-workers, and share it on social media. Join the community in the new Zulip chat workspace at dataengineeringpodcast.com/chat Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Brock Noland and Jordan Birdsell about Apache Kudu and how it is able to provide fast analytics on fast data in the Hadoop ecosystem

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by explaining what Kudu is and the motivation for building it?

How does it fit into the Hadoop ecosystem? How does it compare to the work being done on the Iceberg table format?

What are some of the common application and system design patterns that Kudu supports? How is Kudu architected and how has it evolved over the life of the project? There are many projects in and around the Hadoop ecosystem that rely on Zookeeper as a building block for consensus. What was the reasoning for using Raft in Kudu? How does the storage layer in Kudu differ from what would be found in systems like Hive or HBase?

What are the implementation details in the Kudu storage interface that have had the greatest impact on its overall speed and performance?

A number of the projects built for large scale data processing were not initially built with a focus on operational simplicity. What are the features of Kudu that simplify deployment and management of production infrastructure? What was the motivation for using C++ as the language target for Kudu?

If you were to start the project over today what would you do differently?

What are some situations where you would advise against using Kudu? What have you found to be the most interesting/unexpected/challenging lessons learned in the process of building and maintaining Kudu? What are you most excited about for the future of Kudu?

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Brock

LinkedIn @brocknoland on Twitter

Jordan

LinkedIn @jordanbirdsell jbirdsell on GitHub

PhData

Website phdata on GitHub @phdatainc on Twitter

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

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Summary Distributed systems are complex to build and operate, and there are certain primitives that are common to a majority of them. Rather then re-implement the same capabilities every time, many projects build on top of Apache Zookeeper. In this episode Patrick Hunt explains how the Apache Zookeeper project was started, how it functions, and how it is used as a building block for other distributed systems. He also explains the operational considerations for running your own cluster, how it compares to more recent entrants such as Consul and EtcD, and what is in store for the future.

Preamble

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out Linode. With 200Gbit private networking, scalable shared block storage, and a 40Gbit public network, you’ve got everything you need to run a fast, reliable, and bullet-proof data platform. If you need global distribution, they’ve got that covered too with world-wide datacenters including new ones in Toronto and Mumbai. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today to get a $20 credit and launch a new server in under a minute. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, read the show notes, and get in touch. Join the community in the new Zulip chat workspace at dataengineeringpodcast.com/chat Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Patrick Hunt about Apache Zookeeper and how it is used as a building block for distributed systems

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by explaining what Zookeeper is and how the project got started?

What are the main motivations for using a centralized coordination service for distributed systems?

What are the distributed systems primitives that are built into Zookeeper?

What are some of the higher-order capabilities that Zookeeper provides to users who are building distributed systems on top of Zookeeper? What are some of the types of system level features that application developers will need which aren’t provided by Zookeeper?

Can you discuss how Zookeeper is architected and how that design has evolved over time?

What have you found to be some of the most complicated or difficult aspects of building and maintaining Zookeeper?

What are the scaling factors for Zookeeper?

What are the edge cases that users should be aware of? Where does it fall on the axes of the CAP theorem?

What are the main failure modes for Zookeeper?

How much of the recovery logic is left up to the end user of the Zookeeper cluster?

Since there are a number of projects that rely on Zookeeper, many of which are likely to be run in the same environment (e.g. Kafka and Flink), what would be involved in sharing a single Zookeeper cluster among those multiple services? In recent years we have seen projects such as EtcD which is used by Kubernetes, and Consul. How does Zookeeper compare with those projects?

What are some of the cases where Zookeeper is the wrong choice?

How have the needs of distributed systems engineers changed since you first began working on Zookeeper? If you were to start the project over today, what would you do differently?

Would you still use Java?

What are some of the most interesting or unexpected ways that you have seen Zookeeper used? What do you have planned for the future of Zookeeper?

Contact Info

@phunt on Twitter

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

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