Summary Data lineage is the common thread that ties together all of your data pipelines, workflows, and systems. In order to get a holistic understanding of your data quality, where errors are occurring, or how a report was constructed you need to track the lineage of the data from beginning to end. The complicating factor is that every framework, platform, and product has its own concepts of how to store, represent, and expose that information. In order to eliminate the wasted effort of building custom integrations every time you want to combine lineage information across systems Julien Le Dem introduced the OpenLineage specification. In this episode he explains his motivations for starting the effort, the far-reaching benefits that it can provide to the industry, and how you can start integrating it into your data platform today. This is an excellent conversation about how competing companies can still find mutual benefit in co-operating on open standards.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. When it comes to serving data for AI and ML projects, do you feel like you have to rebuild the plane while you’re flying it across the ocean? Molecula is an enterprise feature store that operationalizes advanced analytics and AI in a format designed for massive machine-scale projects without having to manage endless one-off information requests. With Molecula, data engineers manage one single feature store that serves the entire organization with millisecond query performance whether in the cloud or at your data center. And since it is implemented as an overlay, Molecula doesn’t disrupt legacy systems. High-growth startups use Molecula’s feature store because of its unprecedented speed, cost savings, and simplified access to all enterprise data. From feature extraction to model training to production, the Molecula feature store provides continuously updated feature access, reuse, and sharing without the need to pre-process data. If you need to deliver unprecedented speed, cost savings, and simplified access to large scale, real-time data, visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/molecula and request a demo. Mention that you’re a Data Engineering Podcast listener, and they’ll send you a free t-shirt. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Julien Le Dem about Open Lineage, a new standard for structuring metadata to enable interoperability across the ecosystem of data management tools.

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what the Open Lineage project is and the story behind it? What is the current state of t

Summary There is a lot of attention on the database market and cloud data warehouses. While they provide a measure of convenience, they also require you to sacrifice a certain amount of control over your data. If you want to build a warehouse that gives you both control and flexibility then you might consider building on top of the venerable PostgreSQL project. In this episode Thomas Richter and Joshua Drake share their advice on how to build a production ready data warehouse with Postgres.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Firebolt is the fastest cloud data warehouse. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/firebolt to get started. The first 25 visitors will receive a Firebolt t-shirt. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Thomas Richter and Joshua Drake about using Postgres as your data warehouse

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by establishing a working definition of what constitutes a data warehouse for the purpose of this discussion?

What are the limitations for out-of-the-box Postgres when trying to use it for these workloads?

There are a large and growing number of options for data warehouse style workloads. How would you categorize the different systems and what is PostgreSQL’s position in that ecosystem?

What do you see as the motivating factors for a team or organization to select from among those categories?

Why would someone want to use Postgres as their data warehouse platform rather than using a purpose-built engine? What is the cost/performance equation for Postgres as compared to other data warehouse solutions? For someone who wants to turn Postgres into a data warehouse engine, what are their options?

What are the relative tradeoffs of the different open source and commercial offerings? (e.g. Citus, cstore_fdw, zedstore, Swarm64, Greenplum, etc.)

One of the biggest areas of growth right now is in the "cloud data warehouse" market where storage and compute are decoupled. What are the options for making that possible with Postgres? (e.g. using foreign data wrappers for interacting with data lake storage (S3, HDFS, Alluxio, etc.)) What areas of work are happening in the Postgres community for upcoming releases to make it more easily suited to data warehouse/analytical workloads? What are some of the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Postgres used in analytical contexts? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned from your own experiences of building analytical systems with Postgres? When is Postgres the wrong choice fo

Summary Building an API for real-time data is a challenging project. Making it robust, scalable, and fast is a full time job. The team at Tinybird wants to make it easy to turn a continuous stream of data into a production ready API or data product. In this episode CEO Jorge Sancha explains how they have architected their system to handle high data throughput and fast response times, and why they have invested heavily in Clickhouse as the core of their platform. This is a great conversation about the challenges of building a maintainable business from a technical and product perspective.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Ascend.io — recognized as a 2021 Gartner Cool Vendor in Enterprise AI Operationalization and Engineering—empowers data teams to to build, scale, and operate declarative data pipelines with 95% less code and zero maintenance. Connect to any data source using Ascend’s new flex code data connectors, rapidly iterate on transformations and send data to any destination in a fraction of the time it traditionally takes—just ask companies like Harry’s, HNI, and Mayvenn. Sound exciting? Come join the team! We’re hiring data engineers, so head on over to dataengineeringpodcast.com/ascend and check out our careers page to learn more. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Jorge Sancha about Tinybird, a platform to easily build analytical APIs for real-time data

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by describing what you are building at Tinybird and the story behind it? What are some of the types of use cases that your customers are focused on? What are the areas of complexity that come up when building analytical APIs that are often overlooked when first designing a system to operate on and expose real-time data?

What are the supporting systems that are necessary and useful for operating this kind of system which contribute to the overall time and engineering cost beyond the baseline functionality?

How is the Tinybird platform architected?

How have the goals and implementation of Tinybird changed or evolved since you first began building it?

What was your criteria for selecting the core building block of your platform, and how did that lead to your choice to build on top of Clickhouse? What are some of the sharp edges that you have run into while operating Clickhouse?

What are some of the custom tools or systems that you have built to help deal with them?

What are some of the performance challenges that an API built with Tinybird might run into?

What are the considerations that users should be

Summary Spark is one of the most well-known frameworks for data processing, whether for batch or streaming, ETL or ML, and at any scale. Because of its popularity it has been deployed on every kind of platform you can think of. In this episode Jean-Yves Stephan shares the work that he is doing at Data Mechanics to make it sing on Kubernetes. He explains how operating in a cloud-native context simplifies some aspects of running the system while complicating others, how it simplifies the development and experimentation cycle, and how you can get a head start using their pre-built Spark container. This is a great conversation for understanding how new ways of operating systems can have broader impacts on how they are being used.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Firebolt is the fastest cloud data warehouse. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/firebolt to get started. The first 25 visitors will receive a Firebolt t-shirt. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Jean-Yves Stephan about Data Mechanics, a cloud-native Spark platform for data engineers

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at Data Mechanics and the story behind it? What are the operational characteristics of Spark that make it difficult to run in a cloud-optimized environment? How do you handle retries, state redistribution, etc. when instances get pre-empted during the middle of a job execution?

What are some of the tactics that you have found useful when designing jobs to make them more resilient to interruptions?

What are the customizations that you have had to make to Spark itself? What are some of the supporting tools that you have built to allow for running Spark in a Kubernetes environment? How is the Data Mechanics platform implemented?

How have the goals and design of the platform changed or evolved since you first began working on it?

How does running Spark in a container/Kubernetes environment change the ways that you and your customers think about how and where to use it?

How does it impact the development workflow for data engineers and data scientists?

What are some of the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while building the Data Mechanics product? When is Spark/Data Mechanics the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of the platform?

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From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

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Data Mechanics Databricks Stanford Andrew Ng Mining Massive Datasets Spark Kubernetes Spot Instances Infiniband Data Mechanics Spark Container Image Delight – Spark monitoring utility Terraform Blue/Green Deployment Spark Operator for Kubernetes JupyterHub Jupyter Enterprise Gateway

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Summary The Data industry is changing rapidly, and one of the most active areas of growth is automation of data workflows. Taking cues from the DevOps movement of the past decade data professionals are orienting around the concept of DataOps. More than just a collection of tools, there are a number of organizational and conceptual changes that a proper DataOps approach depends on. In this episode Kevin Stumpf, CTO of Tecton, Maxime Beauchemin, CEO of Preset, and Lior Gavish, CTO of Monte Carlo, discuss the grand vision and present realities of DataOps. They explain how to think about your data systems in a holistic and maintainable fashion, the security challenges that threaten to derail your efforts, and the power of using metadata as the foundation of everything that you do. If you are wondering how to get control of your data platforms and bring all of your stakeholders onto the same page then this conversation is for you.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Max Beauchemin, Lior Gavish, and Kevin Stumpf about the real world challenges of embracing DataOps practices and systems, and how to keep things secure as you scale

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Before we get started, can you each give your definition of what "DataOps" means to you?

How does this differ from "business as usual" in the data industry? What are some of the things that DataOps isn’t (despite what marketers might say)?

What are the biggest difficulties that you have faced in going from concept to production with a workflow or system intended to power self-serve access to other membe

Summary The reason for collecting, cleaning, and organizing data is to make it usable by the organization. One of the most common and widely used methods of access is through a business intelligence dashboard. Superset is an open source option that has been gaining popularity due to its flexibility and extensible feature set. In this episode Maxime Beauchemin discusses how data engineers can use Superset to provide self service access to data and deliver analytics. He digs into how it integrates with your data stack, how you can extend it to fit your use case, and why open source systems are a good choice for your business intelligence. If you haven’t already tried out Superset then this conversation is well worth your time. Give it a listen and then take it for a test drive today.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Max Beauchemin about Superset, an open source platform for data exploration, dashboards, and business intelligence

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by describing what Superset is? Superset is becoming part of the reference architecture for a modern data stack. What are the factors that have contributed to its popularity over other tools such as Redash, Metabase, Looker, etc.? Where do dashboarding and exploration tools like Superset fit in the responsibilities and workflow of a data engineer? What are some of the challenges that Superset faces in being performant when working with large data sources?

Which data sources have you found to be the most challenging to work with?

What are some anti-patterns that users of Superset mig

Summary Most of the time when you think about a data pipeline or ETL job what comes to mind is a purely mechanistic progression of functions that move data from point A to point B. Sometimes, however, one of those transformations is actually a full-fledged machine learning project in its own right. In this episode Tal Galfsky explains how he and the team at Cherre tackled the problem of messy data for Addresses by building a natural language processing and entity resolution system that is served as an API to the rest of their pipelines. He discusses the myriad ways that addresses are incomplete, poorly formed, and just plain wrong, why it was a big enough pain point to invest in building an industrial strength solution for it, and how it actually works under the hood. After listening to this you’ll look at your data pipelines in a new light and start to wonder how you can bring more advanced strategies into the cleaning and transformation process.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Tal Galfsky about how Cherre is bringing order to the messy problem of physical addresses and entity resolution in their data pipelines.

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Started as physicist and evolved into Data Science Can you start by giving a brief recap of what Cherre is and the types of data that you deal with? Cherre is a company that connects data We’re not a data vendor, in that we don’t sell data, primarily We help companies connect and make sense of their data The real estate market is historically closed, gut let, behind on tech What are the biggest challenges that you deal with in your role when working with real estate data? Lack of a standard domain model in real estate. Ontology. What is a property? Each data source, thinks about properties in a very different way. Therefore, yielding similar, but completely different data. QUALITY (Even if the dataset are talking about the same thing, there are different levels of accuracy, freshness). HIREARCHY. When is one source better than another What are the teams and systems that rely on address information? Any company that needs to clean or organize (make sense) their data, need to identify, people, companies, and properties. Our clients use Address resolution in multiple ways. Via the UI or via an API. Our service is both external and internal so what I build has to be good enough for the demanding needs of our data science team, robust enough for our engineers, and simple enough that non-expert clients can use it. Can you give an example for the problems involved in entity resolution Known entity example. Empire state buidling. To resolve addresses in a way that makes sense for the client you need to capture the real world entities. Lots, buildings, units.

Identify the type of the object (lot, building, unit) Tag the object with all the relevant addresses Relations to other objects (lot, building, unit)

What are some examples of the kinds of edge cases or messiness that you encounter in addresses? First class is string problems. Second class component problems. third class is geocoding. I understand that you have developed a service for normalizing addresses and performing entity resolution to provide canonical references for downstream analyses. Can you give an overview of what is involved? What is the need for the service. The main requirement here is connecting an address to lot, building, unit with latitude and longitude coordinates

How were you satisfying this requirement previously? Before we built our model and dedicated service we had a basic prototype for pipeline only to handle NYC addresses. What were the motivations for designing and implementing this as a service? Need to expand nationwide and to deal with client queries in real time. What are some of the other data sources that you rely on to be able to perform this normalization and resolution? Lot data, building data, unit data, Footprints and address points datasets. What challenges do you face in managing these other sources of information? Accuracy, hirearchy, standardization, unified solution, persistant ids and primary keys

Digging into the specifics of your solution, can you talk through the full lifecycle of a request to resolve an address and the various manipulations that are performed on it? String cleaning, Parse and tokenize, standardize, Match What are some of the other pieces of information in your system that you would like to see addressed in a similar fashion? Our named entity solution with connection to knowledge graph and owner unmasking. What are some of the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you learned while building this address resolution system? Scaling nyc geocode example. The NYC model was exploding a subset of the options for messing up an address. Flexibility. Dependencies. Client exposure. Now that you have this system running in production, if you were to start over today what would you do differently? a lot but at this point the module boundaries and client interface are defined in such way that we are able to make changes or completely replace any given part of it without breaking anything client facing What are some of the other projects that you are excited to work on going forward? Named entity resolution and Knowledge Graph

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Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today? BigQuery is huge asset and in particular UDFs but they don’t support API calls or python script

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Summary "Business as usual" is changing, with more companies investing in data as a first class concern. As a result, the data team is growing and introducing more specialized roles. In this episode Josh Benamram, CEO and co-founder of Databand, describes the motivations for these emerging roles, how these positions affect the team dynamics, and the types of visibility that they need into the data platform to do their jobs effectively. He also talks about how his experience working with these teams informs his work at Databand. If you are wondering how to apply your talents and interests to working with data then this episode is a must listen.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Josh Benamram about the continued evolution of roles and responsibilities in data teams and their varied requirements for visibility into the data stack

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by discussing the set of roles that you see in a majority of data teams? What new roles do you see emerging, and what are the motivating factors?

Which of the more established positions are fracturing or merging to create these new responsibilities?

What are the contexts in which you are seeing these role definitions used? (e.g. small teams, large orgs, etc.) How do the increased granularity/specialization of responsibilities across data teams change the ways that data and platform architects need to think about technology investment?

What are the organizational impacts of these new types of data work?

How do these shifts in role definition change the ways that the individuals in th

Summary One of the biggest obstacles to success in delivering data products is cross-team collaboration. Part of the problem is the difference in the information that each role requires to do their job and where they expect to find it. This introduces a barrier to communication that is difficult to overcome, particularly in teams that have not reached a significant level of maturity in their data journey. In this episode Prukalpa Sankar shares her experiences across multiple attempts at building a system that brings everyone onto the same page, ultimately bringing her to found Atlan. She explains how the design of the platform is informed by the needs of managing data projects for large and small teams across her previous roles, how it integrates with your existing systems, and how it can work to bring everyone onto the same page.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Prukalpa Sankar about Atlan, a modern data workspace that makes collaboration among data stakeholders easier, increasing efficiency and agility in data projects

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at Atlan and some of the story behind it? Who are the target users of Atlan? What portions of the data workflow is Atlan responsible for?

What components of the data stack might Atlan replace?

How would you characterize Atlan’s position in the current data ecosystem?

What makes Atlan stand out from other systems for data cataloguing, metadata management, or data governance? What types of data assets (e.g. structured vs unstructured, textual

Summary Data quality is on the top of everyone’s mind recently, but getting it right is as challenging as ever. One of the contributing factors is the number of people who are involved in the process and the potential impact on the business if something goes wrong. In this episode Maarten Masschelein and Tom Baeyens share the work they are doing at Soda to bring everyone on board to make your data clean and reliable. They explain how they started down the path of building a solution for managing data quality, their philosophy of how to empower data engineers with well engineered open source tools that integrate with the rest of the platform, and how to bring all of the stakeholders onto the same page to make your data great. There are many aspects of data quality management and it’s always a treat to learn from people who are dedicating their time and energy to solving it for everyone.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Maarten Masschelein and Tom Baeyens about the work are doing at Soda to power data quality management

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at Soda? What problem are you trying to solve? And how are you solving that problem?

What motivated you to start a business focused on data monitoring and data quality?

The data monitoring and broader data quality space is a segment of the industry that is seeing a huge increase in attention recently. Can you share your perspective on the current state of the ecosystem and how your approach compares to other tools and products? who have you cr

Summary The world of business is becoming increasingly dependent on information that is accurate up to the minute. For analytical systems, the only way to provide this reliably is by implementing change data capture (CDC). Unfortunately, this is a non-trivial undertaking, particularly for teams that don’t have extensive experience working with streaming data and complex distributed systems. In this episode Raghu Murthy, founder and CEO of Datacoral, does a deep dive on how he and his team manage change data capture pipelines in production.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Raghu Murthy about his recent work of making change data capture more accessible and maintainable

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what CDC is and when it is useful? What are the alternatives to CDC?

What are the cases where a more batch-oriented approach would be preferable?

What are the factors that you need to consider when deciding whether to implement a CDC system for a given data integration?

What are the barriers to entry?

What are some of the common mistakes or misconceptions about CDC that you have encountered in your own work and while working with customers? How does CDC fit into a broader data platform, particularly where there are likely to be other data integration pipelines in operation? (e.g. Fivetran/Airbyte/Meltano/custom scripts) What are the moving pieces in a CDC workflow that need to be considered as you are designing the system?

What are some examples of the configuration changes necessary in source systems to provide

Summary The team at DoorDash has a complex set of optimization challenges to deal with using data that they collect from a multi-sided marketplace. In order to handle the volume and variety of information that they use to run and improve the business the data team has to build a platform that analysts and data scientists can use in a self-service manner. In this episode the head of data platform for DoorDash, Sudhir Tonse, discusses the technologies that they are using, the approach that they take to adding new systems, and how they think about priorities for what to support for the whole company vs what to leave as a specialized concern for a single team. This is a valuable look at how to manage a large and growing data platform with that supports a variety of teams with varied and evolving needs.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Sudhir Tonse about how the team at DoorDash designed their data platform

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving a quick overview of what you do at DoorDash?

What are some of the ways that data is used to power the business?

How has the pandemic affected the scale and volatility of the data that you are working with? Can you describe the type(s) of data that you are working with?

What are the primary sources of data that you collect?

What secondary or third party sources of information do you rely on?

Can you give an overview of the collection process for that data?

In selecting the technologies for the various components in your data stack, what are the primary factors that you consider when evaluating

Summary A majority of the time spent in data engineering is copying data between systems to make the information available for different purposes. This introduces challenges such as keeping information synchronized, managing schema evolution, building transformations to match the expectations of the destination systems. H.O. Maycotte was faced with these same challenges but at a massive scale, leading him to question if there is a better way. After tasking some of his top engineers to consider the problem in a new light they created the Pilosa engine. In this episode H.O. explains how using Pilosa as the core he built the Molecula platform to eliminate the need to copy data between systems in able to make it accessible for analytical and machine learning purposes. He also discusses the challenges that he faces in helping potential users and customers understand the shift in thinking that this creates, and how the system is architected to make it possible. This is a fascinating conversation about what the future looks like when you revisit your assumptions about how systems are designed.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing H.O. Maycotte about Molecula, a cloud based feature store based on the open source Pilosa project

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at Molecula and the story behind it?

What are the additional capabilities that Molecula offers on top of the open source Pilosa project?

What are the problems/use cases that Molecula solves for? What are some of the technologies or architectural patterns that Molecula might replace in a companies data platform? One of the use cases that is mentioned on the Molecula site is as a feature store for ML and AI. This is a category that has been seeing a lot of growth recently. Can you provide some context how Molecula fits in that market and how it compares to options such as Tecton, Iguazio, Feast, etc.?

What are the benefits of using a bitmap index for identifying and computing features?

Can you describe how the Molecula platform is architected?

How has the design and goal of Molecula changed or evolved since you first began working on it?

For someone who is using Molecula, can you describe the process of integrating it with their existing data sources? Can you describe the internal data model of Pilosa/Molecula?

How should users think about data modeling and architecture as they are loading information into the platform?

Once a user has data in Pilosa, what are the available mechanisms for performing analyses or feature engineering? What are some of the most underutilized or misunderstood capabilities of Molecula? What are some of the most interesting, unexpected, or innovative ways that you have seen the Molecula platform used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned from building and scaling Molecula? When is Molecula the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of the platform and business?

Contact Info

LinkedIn @maycotte on Twitter

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to check out our other show, Podcast.init to learn about the Python language, its community, and the innovative ways it is being used. Visit the site to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, and read the show notes. If you’ve learned something or tried out a project from the show then tell us about it! Email [email protected]) with your story. To help other people find the show please leave a review on iTunes and tell your friends and co-workers Join the community in the new Zulip chat workspace at dataengineeringpodcast.com/chat

Links

Molecula Pilosa

Podcast Episode

The Social Dilemma Feature Store Cassandra Elasticsearch

Podcast Episode

Druid MongoDB SwimOS

Podcast Episode

Kafka Kafka Schema Registry

Podcast Episode

Homomorphic Encryption Lucene Solr

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Summary The process of building and deploying machine learning projects requires a staggering number of systems and stakeholders to work in concert. In this episode Yaron Haviv, co-founder of Iguazio, discusses the complexities inherent to the process, as well as how he has worked to democratize the technologies necessary to make machine learning operations maintainable.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Yaron Haviv about Iguazio, a platform for end to end automation of machine learning applications using MLOps principles.

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data science & analytics? Can you start by giving an overview of what Iguazio is and the story of how it got started? How would you characterize your target or typical customer? What are the biggest challenges that you see around building production grade workflows for machine learning?

How does Iguazio help to address those complexities?

For customers who have already invested in the technical and organizational capacity for data science and data engineering, how does Iguazio integrate with their environments? What are the responsibilities of a data engineer throughout the different stages of the lifecycle for a machine learning application? Can you describe how the Iguazio platform is architected?

How has the design of the platform evolved since you first began working on it? How have the industry best practices around bringing machine learning to production changed?

How do you approach testing/validation of machine learning applications and releasing them to production environments? (e.g. CI/CD) Once a model is in

Summary Data integration is a critical piece of every data pipeline, yet it is still far from being a solved problem. There are a number of managed platforms available, but the list of options for an open source system that supports a large variety of sources and destinations is still embarrasingly short. The team at Airbyte is adding a new entry to that list with the goal of making robust and easy to use data integration more accessible to teams who want or need to maintain full control of their data. In this episode co-founders John Lafleur and Michel Tricot share the story of how and why they created Airbyte, discuss the project’s design and architecture, and explain their vision of what an open soure data integration platform should offer. If you are struggling to maintain your extract and load pipelines or spending time on integrating with a new system when you would prefer to be working on other projects then this is definitely a conversation worth listening to.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Michel Tricot and John Lafleur about Airbyte, an open source framework for building data integration pipelines.

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by explaining what Airbyte is and the story behind it? Businesses and data engineers have a variety of options for how to manage their data integration. How would you characterize the overall landscape and how does Airbyte distinguish itself in that space? How would you characterize your target users?

How have those personas instructed the priorities and design of Airbyte? What do you see as the benefits and tradeoffs of a UI oriented data integration platform as compared to a code first approach?

what are the complex/challenging elements of data integration that makes it such a slippery problem? motivation for creating open source ELT as a business Can you describe how the Airbyte platform is implemented?

What was your motivation for choosing Java as the primary language?

incidental complexity of forcing all connectors to be packaged as containers shortcomings of the Singer specification/motivation for creating a backwards incompatible interface perceived potential for community adoption of Airbyte specification tradeoffs of using JSON as interchange format vs. e.g. protobuf/gRPC/Avro/etc.

information lost when converting records to JSON types/how to preserve that information (e.g. field constraints, valid enums, etc.)

interfaces/extension points for integrating with other tools, e.g. Dagster abstraction layers for simplifying implementation of new connectors tradeoffs of storing all connectors in a monorepo with the Airbyte core

impact of community adoption/contributions

What is involved in setting up an Airbyte installation? What are the available axes for scaling an Airbyte deployment? challenges of setting up and maintaining CI environment for Airbyte How are you managing governance and long term sustainability of the project? What are some of the most interesting, unexpected, or innovative ways that you have seen Airbyte used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while building Airbyte? When is Airbyte the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of the project?

Contact Info

Michel

LinkedIn @MichelTricot on Twitter michel-tricot on GitHub

John

LinkedIn @JeanLafleur on Twitter johnlafleur on GitHub

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Links

Airbyte Liveramp Fivetran

Podcast Episode

Stitch Data Matillion DataCoral

Podcast Episode

Singer Meltano

Podcast Episode

Airflow

Podcast.init Episode

Kotlin Docker Monorepo Airbyte Specification Great Expectations

Podcast Episode

Dagster

Data Engineering Podcast Episode Podcast.init Episode

Prefect

Podcast Episode

DBT

Podcast Episode

Kubernetes Snowflake

Podcast Episode

Redshift Presto Spark Parquet

Podcast Episode

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Summary Every business aims to be data driven, but not all of them succeed in that effort. In order to be able to truly derive insights from the data that an organization collects, there are certain foundational capabilities that they need to have capacity for. In order to help more businesses build those foundations, Tarush Aggarwal created 5xData, offering collaborative workshops to assist in setting up the technical and organizational systems that are necessary to succeed. In this episode he shares his thoughts on the core elements that are necessary for every business to be data driven, how he is helping companies incorporate those capabilities into their structure, and the ongoing support that he is providing through a network of mastermind groups. This is a great conversation about the initial steps that every group should be thinking of as they start down the road to making data informed decisions.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Tarush Aggarwal about his mission at 5xData to teach companies how to build solid foundations for their data capabilities

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at 5xData and the story behind it? impact of industry on challenges in becoming data driven profile of companies that you are trying to work with common mistakes when designing data platform misconceptions that the business has around how to invest in data challenges in attracting/interviewing/hiring data talent What are the core components that you have standardized on for building the foundational layers of t

Summary With all of the tools and services available for building a data platform it can be difficult to separate the signal from the noise. One of the best ways to get a true understanding of how a technology works in practice is to hear from people who are running it in production. In this episode Zeeshan Qureshi and Michelle Ark share their experiences using DBT to manage the data warehouse for Shopify. They explain how the structured the project to allow for multiple teams to collaborate in a scalable manner, the additional tooling that they added to address the edge cases that they have run into, and the optimizations that they baked into their continuous integration process to provide fast feedback and reduce costs. This is a great conversation about the lessons learned from real world use of a specific technology and how well it lives up to its promises.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. Today’s episode of Data Engineering Podcast is sponsored by Datadog, the monitoring and analytics platform for cloud-scale infrastructure and applications. Datadog’s machine-learning based alerts, customizable dashboards, and 400+ vendor-backed integrations makes it easy to unify disparate data sources and pivot between correlated metrics and events for faster troubleshooting. By combining metrics, traces, and logs in one place, you can easily improve your application performance. Try Datadog free by starting a your 14-day trial and receive a free t-shirt once you install the agent. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datadog today see how you can unify your monitoring today. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Zeeshan Qureshi and Michelle Ark about how Shopify is building their production data warehouse platform with DBT

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what the Shopify platform is? What kinds of data sources are you working with?

Can you share some examples of the types of analysis, decisions, and products that you are building with the data that you manage? How have you structured your data teams to be able to deliver those projects?

What are the systems that you have in place, technological or otherwise, to allow you to support the needs of

Summary The data warehouse has become the central component of the modern data stack. Building on this pattern, the team at Hightouch have created a platform that synchronizes information about your customers out to third party systems for use by marketing and sales teams. In this episode Tejas Manohar explains the benefits of sourcing customer data from one location for all of your organization to use, the technical challenges of synchronizing the data to external systems with varying APIs, and the workflow for enabling self-service access to your customer data by your marketing teams. This is an interesting conversation about the importance of the data warehouse and how it can be used beyond just internal analytics.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $60 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Modern Data teams are dealing with a lot of complexity in their data pipelines and analytical code. Monitoring data quality, tracing incidents, and testing changes can be daunting and often takes hours to days. Datafold helps Data teams gain visibility and confidence in the quality of their analytical data through data profiling, column-level lineage and intelligent anomaly detection. Datafold also helps automate regression testing of ETL code with its Data Diff feature that instantly shows how a change in ETL or BI code affects the produced data, both on a statistical level and down to individual rows and values. Datafold integrates with all major data warehouses as well as frameworks such as Airflow & dbt and seamlessly plugs into CI workflows. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datafold today to start a 30-day trial of Datafold. Once you sign up and create an alert in Datafold for your company data, they will send you a cool water flask. This episode of Data Engineering Podcast is sponsored by Datadog, a unified monitoring and analytics platform built for developers, IT operations teams, and businesses in the cloud age. Datadog provides customizable dashboards, log management, and machine-learning-based alerts in one fully-integrated platform so you can seamlessly navigate, pinpoint, and resolve performance issues in context. Monitor all your databases, cloud services, containers, and serverless functions in one place with Datadog’s 400+ vendor-backed integrations. If an outage occurs, Datadog provides seamless navigation between your logs, infrastructure metrics, and application traces in just a few clicks to minimize downtime. Try it yourself today by starting a free 14-day trial and receive a Datadog t-shirt after installing the agent. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datadog today to see how you can enhance visibility into your stack with Datadog. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Tejas Manohar about Hightouch, a data platform that helps you sync your customer data from your data warehouse to your CRM, marketing, and support tools

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at Hightouch and your motivation for creating it? What are the main points of friction for teams who are trying to make use of customer data? Where is Hightouch positioned in the ecosystem of customer data tools such as Segment, Mixpanel

Summary Data warehouse technology has been around for decades and has gone through several generational shifts in that time. The current trends in data warehousing are oriented around cloud native architectures that take advantage of dynamic scaling and the separation of compute and storage. Firebolt is taking that a step further with a core focus on speed and interactivity. In this episode CEO and founder Eldad Farkash explains how the Firebolt platform is architected for high throughput, their simple and transparent pricing model to encourage widespread use, and the use cases that it unlocks through interactive query speeds.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management What are the pieces of advice that you wish you had received early in your career of data engineering? If you hand a book to a new data engineer, what wisdom would you add to it? I’m working with O’Reilly on a project to collect the 97 things that every data engineer should know, and I need your help. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things to add your voice and share your hard-earned expertise. When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $60 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Today’s episode of the Data Engineering Podcast is sponsored by Datadog, a SaaS-based monitoring and analytics platform for cloud-scale infrastructure, applications, logs, and more. Datadog uses machine-learning based algorithms to detect errors and anomalies across your entire stack—which reduces the time it takes to detect and address outages and helps promote collaboration between Data Engineering, Operations, and the rest of the company. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/datadog today to start your free 14 day trial. If you start a trial and install Datadog’s agent, Datadog will send you a free T-shirt. You listen to this show to learn and stay up to date with what’s happening in databases, streaming platforms, big data, and everything else you need to know about modern data platforms. For more opportunities to stay up to date, gain new skills, and learn from your peers there are a growing number of virtual events that you can attend from the comfort and safety of your home. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/conferences to check out the upcoming events being offered by our partners and get registered today! Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Eldad Farkash about Firebolt, a cloud data warehouse optimized for speed and elasticity on structured and semi-structured data

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by describing what Firebolt is and your motivation for building it? How does Firebolt compare to other data warehouse technologies what unique features does it provide? The lines between a data warehouse and a data lake have been blurring in recent years. Where on that continuum does Firebolt lie? What are the unique use cases that Firebolt allows for? How do the performance characteristics of Firebolt change the ways that an engineer should think about data modeling? What technologies might someone replace with Firebolt? How is Firebolt architected and how has the design evolved since you first began working on it? What are some of the most challenging aspects of building a data warehouse platform that is optimized for speed? How do you ha

Summary Data lakes offer a great deal of flexibility and the potential for reduced cost for your analytics, but they also introduce a great deal of complexity. What used to be entirely managed by the database engine is now a composition of multiple systems that need to be properly configured to work in concert. In order to bring the DBA into the new era of data management the team at Upsolver added a SQL interface to their data lake platform. In this episode Upsolver CEO Ori Rafael and CTO Yoni Iny describe how they have grown their platform deliberately to allow for layering SQL on top of a robust foundation for creating and operating a data lake, how to bring more people on board to work with the data being collected, and the unique benefits that a data lake provides. This was an interesting look at the impact that the interface to your data can have on who is empowered to work with it.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management What are the pieces of advice that you wish you had received early in your career of data engineering? If you hand a book to a new data engineer, what wisdom would you add to it? I’m working with O’Reilly on a project to collect the 97 things that every data engineer should know, and I need your help. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things to add your voice and share your hard-earned expertise. When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $60 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! You listen to this show because you love working with data and want to keep your skills up to date. Machine learning is finding its way into every aspect of the data landscape. Springboard has partnered with us to help you take the next step in your career by offering a scholarship to their Machine Learning Engineering career track program. In this online, project-based course every student is paired with a Machine Learning expert who provides unlimited 1:1 mentorship support throughout the program via video conferences. You’ll build up your portfolio of machine learning projects and gain hands-on experience in writing machine learning algorithms, deploying models into production, and managing the lifecycle of a deep learning prototype. Springboard offers a job guarantee, meaning that you don’t have to pay for the program until you get a job in the space. The Data Engineering Podcast is exclusively offering listeners 20 scholarships of $500 to eligible applicants. It only takes 10 minutes and there’s no obligation. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/springboard and apply today! Make sure to use the code AISPRINGBOARD when you enroll. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Ori Rafael and Yoni Iny about building a data lake for the DBA at Upsolver

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by sharing your definition of what a data lake is and what it is comprised of? We talked last in November of 2018. How has the landscape of data lake technologies and adoption changed in that time?

How has Upsolver changed or evolved since we last spoke?

How has the evolution of the underlying technologies impacted your implementation and overall product strategy?

What are some of the common challenges that accompany a data lake implementation? How do those challenges influence the adoption or viability of a data lake? How does the introduction of a universal SQL layer change the staffing requirements for building and maintaining a data lake?

What are the advantages of a data lake over a data warehouse if everything is being managed via SQL anyway?

What are some of the underlying realities of the data systems that power the lake which will eventually need to be understood by the operators of the platform? How is the SQL layer in Upsolver implemented?

What are the most challenging or complex aspects of managing the underlying technologies to provide automated partitioning, indexing, etc.?

What are the main concepts that you need to educate your customers on? What are some of the pitfalls that users should be aware of? What features of your platform are often overlooked or underutilized which you think should be more widely adopted? What have you found to be the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons learned while building the technical and business elements of Upsolver? What do you have planned for the future?

Contact Info

Ori

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Yoni

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Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

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Common Table Expressions Lambda Architecture Kappa Architecture Apache Flink

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