Summary Gartner analysts are tasked with identifying promising companies each year that are making an impact in their respective categories. For businesses that are working in the data management and analytics space they recognized the efforts of Timbr.ai, Soda Data, Nexla, and Tada. In this episode the founders and leaders of each of these organizations share their perspective on the current state of the market, and the challenges facing businesses and data professionals today.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Have you ever had to develop ad-hoc solutions for security, privacy, and compliance requirements? Are you spending too much of your engineering resources on creating database views, configuring database permissions, and manually granting and revoking access to sensitive data? Satori has built the first DataSecOps Platform that streamlines data access and security. Satori’s DataSecOps automates data access controls, permissions, and masking for all major data platforms such as Snowflake, Redshift and SQL Server and even delegates data access management to business users, helping you move your organization from default data access to need-to-know access. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/satori today and get a $5K credit for your next Satori subscription. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Saket Saurabh, Maarten Masschelein, Akshay Deshpande, and Dan Weitzner about the challenges facing data practitioners today and the solutions that are being brought to market for addressing them, as well as the work they are doing that got them recognized as "cool vendors" by Gartner.

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you each describe what you view as the biggest challenge facing data professionals? Who are you building your solutions for and what are the most common data management problems are you all solving? What are different components of Data Management and why is it so complex? What will simplify this process, if any? The report covers a lot of new data management terminology – data governance, data observability, data fabric, data mesh, DataOps, MLOps, AIOps – what does this all mean and why is it important for data engineers? How has the data management space changed in recent times? Describe the current data management landscape and any key developments. From your perspective, what are the biggest challenges in the data management space today? What modern data management features are lacking in existing databases? Gartner imagines a future where data and analytics leaders need to be prepared to rely on data manage

Summary The term "data platform" gets thrown around a lot, but have you stopped to think about what it actually means for you and your organization? In this episode Lior Gavish, Lior Solomon, and Atul Gupte share their view of what it means to have a data platform, discuss their experiences building them at various companies, and provide advice on how to treat them like a software product. This is a valuable conversation about how to approach the work of selecting the tools that you use to power your data systems and considerations for how they can be woven together for a unified experience across your various stakeholders.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Lior Gavish, Lior Solomon, and Atul Gupte about the technical, social, and architectural aspects of building your data platform as a product for your internal customers

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? – all Can we start by establishing a definition of "data platform" for the purpose of this conversation? Who are the stakeholders in a data platform?

Where does the responsibility lie for creating and maintaining ("owning") the platform?

What are some of the technical and organizational constraints that are likely to factor into the design and execution of the platform? What are the minimum set of requirements necessary to qualify as a platform? (as opposed to a collection of discrete components)

What are the additional capabilities that should be in place to simplify the use and maintenance of the platform?

How are data platforms managed? Are they managed by technical teams, product managers, etc.? What is the profile for a data product manager? – Atul G. How do you set SLIs / SLOs with your data platform team when you don’t have clear metrics you’re tracking? – Lior S. There has been a lot of conversation recently about different interpretations of the "modern data stack". For a team who is just starting to build out their platform, h

Summary The Presto project has become the de facto option for building scalable open source analytics in SQL for the data lake. In recent months the community has focused their efforts on making it the fastest possible option for running your analytics in the cloud. In this episode Dipti Borkar discusses the work that she and her team are doing at Ahana to simplify the work of running your own PrestoDB environment in the cloud. She explains how they are optimizin the runtime to reduce latency and increase query throughput, the ways that they are contributing back to the open source community, and the exciting improvements that are in the works to make Presto an even more powerful option for all of your analytics.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Schema changes, missing data, and volume anomalies caused by your data sources can happen without any advanced notice if you lack visibility into your data-in-motion. That leaves DataOps reactive to data quality issues and can make your consumers lose confidence in your data. By connecting to your pipeline orchestrator like Apache Airflow and centralizing your end-to-end metadata, Databand.ai lets you identify data quality issues and their root causes from a single dashboard. With Databand.ai, you’ll know whether the data moving from your sources to your warehouse will be available, accurate, and usable when it arrives. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/databand to sign up for a free 30-day trial of Databand.ai and take control of your data quality today. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Dipti Borkar, cofounder Ahana about Presto and Ahana, SaaS managed service for Presto

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Ahana is and the story behind it? There has been a lot of recent activity in the Presto community. Can you give an overview of the options that are available for someone wanting to use its SQL engine for querying their data?

What is Ahana’s role in the community/ecosystem? (happy to skip this question if it’s too contentious) What are some of the notable differences that have emerged over the past couple of years between the Trino (formerly PrestoSQL) and PrestoDB projects?

Another area that has been seeing a lot of activity is data lakes and projects to make them more manageable and feature complete (e.g. Hudi, Delta Lake, Iceberg, Nessie, LakeFS, etc.). How has that influenced your product focus and capabilities?

How does this activity change the calculus for organizations who are deciding on a lake or warehouse for their data architecture?

Can y

Summary Companies of all sizes and industries are trying to use the data that they and their customers generate to survive and thrive in the modern economy. As a result, they are relying on a constantly growing number of data sources being accessed by an increasingly varied set of users. In order to help data consumers find and understand the data is available, and help the data producers understand how to prioritize their work, SelectStar has built a data discovery platform that brings everyone together. In this episode Shinji Kim shares her experience as a data professional struggling to collaborate with her colleagues and how that led her to founding a company to address that problem. She also discusses the combination of technical and social challenges that need to be solved for everyone to gain context and comprehension around their most valuable asset.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management You listen to this show to learn about all of the latest tools, patterns, and practices that power data engineering projects across every domain. Now there’s a book that captures the foundational lessons and principles that underly everything that you hear about here. I’m happy to announce I collected wisdom from the community to help you in your journey as a data engineer and worked with O’Reilly to publish it as 97 Things Every Data Engineer Should Know. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things today to get your copy! When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Shinji Kim about SelectStar, an intelligent data discovery platform that helps you understand your data

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what SelectStar is and the story behind it? What are the core challenges that organizations are facing around data cataloging and discovery? There has been a surge in tools and services for metadata collection, data catalogs, and data collaboration. How would you characterize the current state of the ecosystem?

What is SelectStar’s role in

Summary Collecting and cleaning data is only useful if someone can make sense of it afterward. The latest evolution in the data ecosystem is the introduction of a dedicated metrics layer to help address the challenge of adding context and semantics to raw information. In this episode Nick Handel shares the story behind Transform, a new platform that provides a managed metrics layer for your data platform. He explains the challenges that occur when metrics are maintained across a variety of systems, the benefits of unifying them in a common access layer, and the potential that it unlocks for everyone in the business to confidently answer questions with data.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management You listen to this show to learn about all of the latest tools, patterns, and practices that power data engineering projects across every domain. Now there’s a book that captures the foundational lessons and principles that underly everything that you hear about here. I’m happy to announce I collected wisdom from the community to help you in your journey as a data engineer and worked with O’Reilly to publish it as 97 Things Every Data Engineer Should Know. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things today to get your copy! When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Nick Handel about Transform, a platform providing a dedicated metrics layer for your data stack

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Transform is and the story behind it? How do you define the concept of a "metric" in the context of the data platform? What are the general strategies in the industry for creating, managing, and consuming metrics?

How has that been changing in the past couple of years?

What is driving that shift?

What are the main goals that you have for the Transform platform?

Who are the target users? How does that focus influence your approach to the design of the platform?

How is the Transform platform architected?

What are the core capabilities tha

Summary There is a wealth of tools and systems available for processing data, but the user experience of integrating them and building workflows is still lacking. This is particularly important in large and complex organizations where domain knowledge and context is paramount and there may not be access to engineers for codifying that expertise. Raj Bains founded Prophecy to address this need by creating a UI first platform for building and executing data engineering workflows that orchestrates Airflow and Spark. Rather than locking your business logic into a proprietary storage layer and only exposing it through a drag-and-drop editor Prophecy synchronizes all of your jobs with source control, allowing an easy bi-directional interaction between code first and no-code experiences. In this episode he shares his motivations for creating Prophecy, how he is leveraging the magic of compilers to translate between UI and code oriented representations of logic, and the organizational benefits of having a cohesive experience designed to bring business users and domain experts into the same platform as data engineers and analysts.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management You listen to this show to learn about all of the latest tools, patterns, and practices that power data engineering projects across every domain. Now there’s a book that captures the foundational lessons and principles that underly everything that you hear about here. I’m happy to announce I collected wisdom from the community to help you in your journey as a data engineer and worked with O’Reilly to publish it as 97 Things Every Data Engineer Should Know. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things today to get your copy! When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Raj Bains about Prophecy, a low-code data engineering platform built on Spark and Airflow

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what you are building at Prophecy and the story behind it? There are a huge number of too

Summary We have been building platforms and workflows to store, process, and analyze data since the earliest days of computing. Over that time there have been countless architectures, patterns, and "best practices" to make that task manageable. With the growing popularity of cloud services a new pattern has emerged and been dubbed the "Modern Data Stack". In this episode members of the GoDataDriven team, Guillermo Sanchez, Bram Ochsendorf, and Juan Perafan, explain the combinations of services that comprise this architecture, share their experiences working with clients to employ the stack, and the benefits of bringing engineers and business users together with data.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management You listen to this show to learn about all of the latest tools, patterns, and practices that power data engineering projects across every domain. Now there’s a book that captures the foundational lessons and principles that underly everything that you hear about here. I’m happy to announce I collected wisdom from the community to help you in your journey as a data engineer and worked with O’Reilly to publish it as 97 Things Every Data Engineer Should Know. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things today to get your copy! When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! RudderStack’s smart customer data pipeline is warehouse-first. It builds your customer data warehouse and your identity graph on your data warehouse, with support for Snowflake, Google BigQuery, Amazon Redshift, and more. Their SDKs and plugins make event streaming easy, and their integrations with cloud applications like Salesforce and ZenDesk help you go beyond event streaming. With RudderStack you can use all of your customer data to answer more difficult questions and then send those insights to your whole customer data stack. Sign up free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/rudder today. We’ve all been asked to help with an ad-hoc request for data by the sales and marketing team. Then it becomes a critical report that they need updated every week or every day. Then what do you do? Send a CSV via email? Write some Python scripts to automate it? But what about incremental sync, API quotas, error handling, and all of the other details that eat up your time? Today, there is a better way. With Census, just write SQL or plug in your dbt models and start syncing your cloud warehouse to SaaS applications like Salesforce, Marketo, Hubspot, and many more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/census today to get a free 14-day trial. Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Guillermo Sanchez, Bram Ochsendorf, and Juan Perafan about their experiences with managed services in the modern data stack in their work as consultants at GoDataDriven

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving your definition of the modern data stack?

What are the key characteristics of a tool or platform that make it a candidate for the "modern" stack?

How does the modern data stack shift the responsibilities and capabilities of data professionals and consumers? What are some difficulties that you face when working with customers to migrate to these new architectures? What are some of the limitations of the components or

Summary Every data project, whether it’s analytics, machine learning, or AI, starts with the work of data cleaning. This is a critical step and benefits from being accessible to the domain experts. Trifacta is a platform for managing your data engineering workflow to make curating, cleaning, and preparing your information more approachable for everyone in the business. In this episode CEO Adam Wilson shares the story behind the business, discusses the myriad ways that data wrangling is performed across the business, and how the platform is architected to adapt to the ever-changing landscape of data management tools. This is a great conversation about how deliberate user experience and platform design can make a drastic difference in the amount of value that a business can provide to their customers.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management You listen to this show to learn about all of the latest tools, patterns, and practices that power data engineering projects across every domain. Now there’s a book that captures the foundational lessons and principles that underly everything that you hear about here. I’m happy to announce I collected wisdom from the community to help you in your journey as a data engineer and worked with O’Reilly to publish it as 97 Things Every Data Engineer Should Know. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/97things today to get your copy! When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Adam Wilson about Trifacta, a platform for modern data workers to assess quality, transform, and automate data pipelines

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Trifacta is and the story behind it? Across your site and material you focus on using the term "data wrangling". What is your personal definition of that term, and in what ways do you differentiate from ETL/ELT?

How does the deliberate use of that terminology influence the way that you think about the design and features of the Trifacta platform?

What is Trifacta’s role in the overall data platform/data lifecycle for an organization?

What are some examples of tools that Trifacta might replace? What tools or systems does Trifacta integrate with?

Who are the target end-users of the Trifacta platform and how do those personas direct the design and functionality? Can you describe how Trifacta is architected?

How have the goals and design of the system changed or evolved since you first began working on it?

Can you talk through the workflow and lifecycle of data as it traverses your platform, and the user interactions that drive it? How can data engineers share and encourage proper patterns for working with data assets with end-users across the organization? What are the limits of scale for volume and complexity of data assets that users are able to manage through Trifacta’s visual tools?

What are some strategies that you and your customers have found useful for pre-processing the information that enters your platform to increase the accessibility for end-users to self-serve?

What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Trifacta used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Trifacata? When is Trifacta the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of Trifacta?

Contact Info

LinkedIn @a_adam_wilson on Twitter

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Closing Announcements

Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to check out our other show, Podcast.init to learn about the Python language, its community, and the innovative ways it is being used. Visit the site to subscribe to the show, sign up for the mailing list, and read the show notes. If you’ve learned something or tried out a project from the show then tell us about it! Email [email protected]) with your story. To help other people find the show please leave a review on iTunes and tell your friends and co-workers Join the community in the new Zulip chat workspace at dataengineeringpodcast.com/chat

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Summary Data integration in the form of extract and load is the critical first step of every data project. There are a large number of commercial and open source projects that offer that capability but it is still far from being a solved problem. One of the most promising community efforts is that of the Singer ecosystem, but it has been plagued by inconsistent quality and design of plugins. In this episode the members of the Meltano project share the work they are doing to improve the discovery, quality, and capabilities of Singer taps and targets. They explain their work on the Meltano Hub and the Singer SDK and their long term goals for the Singer community.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Douwe Maan, Taylor Murphy, and AJ Steers about their work to level up the Singer ecosystem through projects like Meltano Hub and the Singer SDK

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by describing what the Singer ecosystem is? What are the current weak points/challenges in the ecosystem? What is the current role of the Meltano project/community within the ecosystem?

What are the projects and activities related to Singer that you are focused on?

What are the main goals of the Meltano Hub?

What criteria are you using to determine which projects to include in the hub? Why is the number of targets so small? What additional functionality do you have planned for the hub?

What functionality does the SDK provide?

How does the presence of the SDK make it easier to write taps/targets? What do you believe the long-term impacts of the SDK on the overall availability and quality of plugins will be?

Now that you have spun out your own business and raised funding, how does that influence the priorities and focus of your work?

How do you hope to productize what you have built at Meltano?

What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Meltano and Singer plugins used? What are

At Fivetran, we are seeing many organizations adopt the Modern Data Stack to suit the breadth of their data needs. However, as incoming data sources begin to scale, it can be hard to manage and maintain the environment, with more time spent repairing and reengineering old data pipelines than building new ones. This talk will introduce a number of new Airflow Providers, including the airflow-provider-fivetran, and discuss some of the benefits and considerations we are seeing data engineers, data analysts, and data scientist experience in doing so.

In this talk, I’ll describe how you can leverage 3 open-source standards - workflow management with Airflow, EL with Airbyte, transformation with DBT - to build your next modern data stack. I’ll explain how to configure your Airflow DAG to trigger Airbyte’s data replication jobs and DBT’s transformation one with a concrete use case.

Summary Data Engineering is a broad and constantly evolving topic, which makes it difficult to teach in a concise and effective manner. Despite that, Daniel Molnar and Peter Fabian started the Pipeline Academy to do exactly that. In this episode they reflect on the lessons that they learned while teaching the first cohort of their bootcamp how to be effective data engineers. By focusing on the fundamentals, and making everyone write code, they were able to build confidence and impart the importance of context for their students.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Daniel Molnar and Peter Fabian about the lessons that they learned from their first cohort at the Pipeline data engineering academy

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by sharing the curriculum and learning goals for the students? How did you set a common baseline for all of the students to build from throughout the program?

What was your process for determining the structure of the tasks and the tooling used?

What were some of the topics/tools that the students had the most difficulty with?

What topics/tools were the easiest to grasp?

What are some difficulties that you encountered while trying to teach different concepts? How did you deal with the tension of teaching the fundamentals while tying them to toolchains that hiring managers are looking for? What are the successes that you had with this cohort and what changes are you making to your approach/curriculum to build on them? What are some of the failures that you encountered and what lessons have you taken from them? How did the pandemic impact your overall plan and execution of the initial cohort? What were the skills that you focused on for interview preparation? What level of ongoing support/engagement do you have with students once they complete the curriculum? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected solutions that you saw from your students? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working with your first cohort? When is a bootcamp the wrong approach for skill development? What do you have planned for the future of the Pipeline Academy?

Contact Info

Daniel

LinkedIn Website @soobrosa on Twitter

Peter

LinkedIn

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

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Pipeline Academy

Blog

Scikit Pandas Urchin Kafka Three "C"s – Context, Confidence, and Code Prefect

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Summary Working with unstructured data has typically been a motivation for a data lake. The challenge is imposing enough order on the platform to make it useful. Kirk Marple has spent years working with data systems and the media industry, which inspired him to build a platform for automatically organizing your unstructured assets to make them more valuable. In this episode he shares the goals of the Unstruk Data Warehouse, how it is architected to extract asset metadata and build a searchable knowledge graph from the information, and the myriad ways that the system can be used. If you are wondering how to deal with all of the information that doesn’t fit in your databases or data warehouses, then this episode is for you.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Kirk Marple about Unstruk Data, a company that is building a data warehouse for unstructured data that ofers automated data preparation via metadata enrichment, integrated compute, and graph-based search

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Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Unstruk Data is and the story behind it? What would you classify as "unstructured data"?

What are some examples of industries that rely on large or varied sets of unstructured data? What are the challenges for analytics that are posed by the different categories of unstructured data?

What is the current state of the industry for working with unstructured data?

What are the unique capabilities that Unstruk provides and how does it integrate with the rest of the ecosystem? Where does it sit in the overall landscape of data tools?

Can you describe how the Unstruk data warehouse is implemented?

What are the assumptions that you had at the start of this project that have been challenged as you started working through the technical implementation and customer trials? How has the design and architecture evolved or changed since you began working on it?

How do you handle versioning of data, give

Take advantage of today's sky-high demand for data engineers. With this in-depth book, current and aspiring engineers will learn powerful real-world best practices for managing data big and small. Contributors from notable companies including Twitter, Google, Stitch Fix, Microsoft, Capital One, and LinkedIn share their experiences and lessons learned for overcoming a variety of specific and often nagging challenges. Edited by Tobias Macey, host of the popular Data Engineering Podcast, this book presents 97 concise and useful tips for cleaning, prepping, wrangling, storing, processing, and ingesting data. Data engineers, data architects, data team managers, data scientists, machine learning engineers, and software engineers will greatly benefit from the wisdom and experience of their peers. Topics include: The Importance of Data Lineage - Julien Le Dem Data Security for Data Engineers - Katharine Jarmul The Two Types of Data Engineering and Data Engineers - Jesse Anderson Six Dimensions for Picking an Analytical Data Warehouse - Gleb Mezhanskiy The End of ETL as We Know It - Paul Singman Building a Career as a Data Engineer - Vijay Kiran Modern Metadata for the Modern Data Stack - Prukalpa Sankar Your Data Tests Failed! Now What? - Sam Bail

Summary Google pioneered an impressive number of the architectural underpinnings of the broader big data ecosystem. Now they offer the technologies that they run internally to external users of their cloud platform. In this episode Lak Lakshmanan enumerates the variety of services that are available for building your various data processing and analytical systems. He shares some of the common patterns for building pipelines to power business intelligence dashboards, machine learning applications, and data warehouses. If you’ve ever been overwhelmed or confused by the array of services available in the Google Cloud Platform then this episode is for you.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Are you bored with writing scripts to move data into SaaS tools like Salesforce, Marketo, or Facebook Ads? Hightouch is the easiest way to sync data into the platforms that your business teams rely on. The data you’re looking for is already in your data warehouse and BI tools. Connect your warehouse to Hightouch, paste a SQL query, and use their visual mapper to specify how data should appear in your SaaS systems. No more scripts, just SQL. Supercharge your business teams with customer data using Hightouch for Reverse ETL today. Get started for free at dataengineeringpodcast.com/hightouch. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Lak Lakshmanan about the suite of services for data and analytics in Google Cloud Platform.

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of the tools and products that are offered as part of Google Cloud for data and analytics?

How do the various systems relate to each other for building a full workflow? How do you balance the need for clean integration between services with the need to make them useful in isolation when used as a single component of a data platform?

What have you found to be the primary motivators for customers who are adopting GCP for some or all of their data workloads? What are some of the challenges that new users of GCP encounter when working with the data and analytics products that it offers? What are the systems that you have found to be easiest to work with?

Which are the most challenging to work with, whether due to the kinds of problems that they are solving for, or due to their user experience design?

How has your work with customers fed back into the products that you are building on top of? What are some examples of architectural or software patterns that are unique to the GCP product suite? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that y

Summary SQL is the most widely used language for working with data, and yet the tools available for writing and collaborating on it are still clunky and inefficient. Frustrated with the lack of a modern IDE and collaborative workflow for managing the SQL queries and analysis of their big data environments, the team at Pinterest created Querybook. In this episode Justin Mejorada-Pier and Charlie Gu share the story of how the initial prototype for a data catalog ended up as one of their most widely used interfaces to their analytical data. They also discuss the unique combination of features that it offers, how it is implemented, and the path to releasing it as open source. Querybook is an impressive and unique piece of technology that is well worth exploring, so listen and try it out today.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Firebolt is the fastest cloud data warehouse. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/firebolt to get started. The first 25 visitors will receive a Firebolt t-shirt. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Justin Mejorada-Pier and Charlie Gu about Querybook, an open source IDE for your big data projects

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you describe what Querybook is and the story behind it? What are the main use cases or workflows that Querybook is designed for?

What are the shortcomings of dashboarding/BI tools that make something like Querybook necessary?

The tag line calls out the fact that Querybook is an IDE for "big data". What are the manifestations of that focus in the feature set and user experience? Who are the target users of Querybook and how does that inform the feature priorities and user experience? Can you describe how Querybook is architected?

How have the goals and design changed or evolved since you first began working on it? What were some of the assumptions or design choices that you had to unwind in the process of open sourcing it?

What is the workflow for someone building a DataDoc with Querybook?

What is the experience of working as a collaborator on an analysis?

How do you handle lifecycle management of query results? What are your thoughts on the potential for extending Querybook beyond SQL-oriented analysis and integrating something like Jupyter kernels? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Querybook used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on Querybook? When is Querybook the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of Querybook?

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Justin

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Data-led academy Arpit’s background Growth marketing Being data-led Data-led vs data-driven Documenting your data: creating a tracking plan Understanding your data Tools for creating a tracking plan Data flow stages Tracking events — examples Collecting the data Storing and analyzing the data Data activation Tools for data collection Data warehouses Reverse ETL tools Customer data platforms Modern data stack for growth Buy vs build People we need to in the data flow Data democratization Motivating people to document data Product-led vs data-led

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Summary The data warehouse has become the focal point of the modern data platform. With increased usage of data across businesses, and a diversity of locations and environments where data needs to be managed, the warehouse engine needs to be fast and easy to manage. Yellowbrick is a data warehouse platform that was built from the ground up for speed, and can work across clouds and all the way to the edge. In this episode CTO Mark Cusack explains how the engine is architected, the benefits that speed and predictable pricing has for the organization, and how you can simplify your platform by putting the warehouse close to the data, instead of the other way around.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Firebolt is the fastest cloud data warehouse. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/firebolt to get started. The first 25 visitors will receive a Firebolt t-shirt. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Mark Cusack about Yellowbrick, a data warehouse designed for distributed clouds

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by describing what Yellowbrick is and some of the story behind it? What does the term "distributed cloud" signify and what challenges are associated with it? How would you characterize Yellowbrick’s position in the database/DWH market? How is Yellowbrick architected?

How have the goals and design of the platform changed or evolved over time?

How does Yellowbrick maintain visibility across the different data locations that it is responsible for?

What capabilities does it offer for being able to join across the disparate "clouds"?

What are some data modeling strategies that users should consider when designing their deployment of Yellowbrick? What are some of the capabilities of Yellowbrick that you find most useful or technically interesting? For someone who is adopting Yellowbrick, what is the process for getting it integrated into their data systems? What are the most underutilized, overlooked, or misunderstood features of Yellowbrick? What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Yellowbrick used? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on and with Yellowbrick? When is Yellowbrick the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of the product?

Contact Info

LinkedIn @markcusack on Twitter

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Links

Yellowbrick Teradata Rainstor Distributed Cloud Hybrid Cloud SwimOS

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K

Summary There is a lot of attention on the database market and cloud data warehouses. While they provide a measure of convenience, they also require you to sacrifice a certain amount of control over your data. If you want to build a warehouse that gives you both control and flexibility then you might consider building on top of the venerable PostgreSQL project. In this episode Thomas Richter and Joshua Drake share their advice on how to build a production ready data warehouse with Postgres.

Announcements

Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Firebolt is the fastest cloud data warehouse. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/firebolt to get started. The first 25 visitors will receive a Firebolt t-shirt. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Thomas Richter and Joshua Drake about using Postgres as your data warehouse

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by establishing a working definition of what constitutes a data warehouse for the purpose of this discussion?

What are the limitations for out-of-the-box Postgres when trying to use it for these workloads?

There are a large and growing number of options for data warehouse style workloads. How would you categorize the different systems and what is PostgreSQL’s position in that ecosystem?

What do you see as the motivating factors for a team or organization to select from among those categories?

Why would someone want to use Postgres as their data warehouse platform rather than using a purpose-built engine? What is the cost/performance equation for Postgres as compared to other data warehouse solutions? For someone who wants to turn Postgres into a data warehouse engine, what are their options?

What are the relative tradeoffs of the different open source and commercial offerings? (e.g. Citus, cstore_fdw, zedstore, Swarm64, Greenplum, etc.)

One of the biggest areas of growth right now is in the "cloud data warehouse" market where storage and compute are decoupled. What are the options for making that possible with Postgres? (e.g. using foreign data wrappers for interacting with data lake storage (S3, HDFS, Alluxio, etc.)) What areas of work are happening in the Postgres community for upcoming releases to make it more easily suited to data warehouse/analytical workloads? What are some of the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen Postgres used in analytical contexts? What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned from your own experiences of building analytical systems with Postgres? When is Postgres the wrong choice fo

Summary Spark is one of the most well-known frameworks for data processing, whether for batch or streaming, ETL or ML, and at any scale. Because of its popularity it has been deployed on every kind of platform you can think of. In this episode Jean-Yves Stephan shares the work that he is doing at Data Mechanics to make it sing on Kubernetes. He explains how operating in a cloud-native context simplifies some aspects of running the system while complicating others, how it simplifies the development and experimentation cycle, and how you can get a head start using their pre-built Spark container. This is a great conversation for understanding how new ways of operating systems can have broader impacts on how they are being used.

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Hello and welcome to the Data Engineering Podcast, the show about modern data management When you’re ready to build your next pipeline, or want to test out the projects you hear about on the show, you’ll need somewhere to deploy it, so check out our friends at Linode. With their managed Kubernetes platform it’s now even easier to deploy and scale your workflows, or try out the latest Helm charts from tools like Pulsar and Pachyderm. With simple pricing, fast networking, object storage, and worldwide data centers, you’ve got everything you need to run a bulletproof data platform. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/linode today and get a $100 credit to try out a Kubernetes cluster of your own. And don’t forget to thank them for their continued support of this show! Firebolt is the fastest cloud data warehouse. Visit dataengineeringpodcast.com/firebolt to get started. The first 25 visitors will receive a Firebolt t-shirt. Atlan is a collaborative workspace for data-driven teams, like Github for engineering or Figma for design teams. By acting as a virtual hub for data assets ranging from tables and dashboards to SQL snippets & code, Atlan enables teams to create a single source of truth for all their data assets, and collaborate across the modern data stack through deep integrations with tools like Snowflake, Slack, Looker and more. Go to dataengineeringpodcast.com/atlan today and sign up for a free trial. If you’re a data engineering podcast listener, you get credits worth $3000 on an annual subscription Your host is Tobias Macey and today I’m interviewing Jean-Yves Stephan about Data Mechanics, a cloud-native Spark platform for data engineers

Interview

Introduction How did you get involved in the area of data management? Can you start by giving an overview of what you are building at Data Mechanics and the story behind it? What are the operational characteristics of Spark that make it difficult to run in a cloud-optimized environment? How do you handle retries, state redistribution, etc. when instances get pre-empted during the middle of a job execution?

What are some of the tactics that you have found useful when designing jobs to make them more resilient to interruptions?

What are the customizations that you have had to make to Spark itself? What are some of the supporting tools that you have built to allow for running Spark in a Kubernetes environment? How is the Data Mechanics platform implemented?

How have the goals and design of the platform changed or evolved since you first began working on it?

How does running Spark in a container/Kubernetes environment change the ways that you and your customers think about how and where to use it?

How does it impact the development workflow for data engineers and data scientists?

What are some of the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while building the Data Mechanics product? When is Spark/Data Mechanics the wrong choice? What do you have planned for the future of the platform?

Contact Info

LinkedIn

Parting Question

From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?

Links

Data Mechanics Databricks Stanford Andrew Ng Mining Massive Datasets Spark Kubernetes Spot Instances Infiniband Data Mechanics Spark Container Image Delight – Spark monitoring utility Terraform Blue/Green Deployment Spark Operator for Kubernetes JupyterHub Jupyter Enterprise Gateway

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